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Could have been a double charge of Unique powder too, hope the guy recovers to full health. With the index finger shredded to a nub and the thumb completely gone his right hand is essentially useless. He will heal but not recover.
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I think his new name will be Three Finger Jack. It will be life changing, I do feel sorry for the poor guy.
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I'm not up on Glocks but stupid question...why would a .40 S&W be more likely to come apart?
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I'm not up on Glocks but stupid question...why would a .40 S&W be more likely to come apart? They're loaded very hot and put in 9mm size frames. They're sorta pushing the envelope with that combo. Travis
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I'm not up on Glocks but stupid question...why would a .40 S&W be more likely to come apart? They're loaded very hot and put in 9mm size frames. They're sorta pushing the envelope with that combo. Travis Yeah, I never load max on the 40 for my Shield or my XD's. I'm loading 5.8 grains CFE Pistol with a 180 grain bullet which should be 30,000 ball park. Sammi on a 40 is 35,000 so I have a comfortable margin. Max load on the CFE pistol is 6 grains and minimum is 5.4 grains. It's a bit under factory loads, not much. My carry load is a Federal 180 grain HST. It functions and is accurate. No need to push the envelope in this.
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I load 'em to the gills.
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I'm not up on Glocks but stupid question...why would a .40 S&W be more likely to come apart? They're loaded very hot and put in 9mm size frames. They're sorta pushing the envelope with that combo. Travis Also the main reason I do NOT own a .40... I load 'em to the gills.
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Was that a factory frame or after market? Could be a 10mm.
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Looks like a Gen 1 or Gen 2 because of the absence of an accessory rail.
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All rough calculations:
At 35,000 psi SAMMI max the total load on the chamber walls of a 9mm would be 29,416 pounds and the 40 S+W 36,750 pounds.
That in a barrel blank that is bored out some 34% larger for the 40 than it is for the 9mm and with the Glock the external dimensions of that barrel are the same.
The margins are much tighter with the 40 than they are with the 9mm.
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Hvae not had issues with the wifes 20 yet...
Not sure how lead could be an issue at all.
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[/quote] Also the main reason I do NOT own a .40...
I converted my Glock 20 to .40 S&W. Works great, and has strength more appropriate for the round. I don't own any other gun in .40 S&W.
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We use 20s as is. No need to drop down to 40s.
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Not sure how lead could be an issue at all. Glock states that lead rounds violate the warranty. No rifling grooves in Glocks, so any lead buildup increases barrel pressure beyond design limits.
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We use 20s as is. No need to drop down to 40s. I retain my 10mm barrel, of course. Never know if a lion or tiger will escape from the zoo.
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So what is the nominal PSI for a 357 SiG then?
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So what is the nominal PSI for a 357 SiG then? 40,000. Of course no factory ammo is going to come even close to that. Probably staying 2-3,000 below that.
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This is from a Glock failure. I'm not going into what caused the failure. Here's the thing, look at the gun.
Had that frame been steel might in not have come apart like that? Well, I'm a polymer pistol user and will continue to be one. I am a Glock owner and will continue to be one. However, instead of getting my underwear all in a bunch because somebody showed a picture of a brand of pistol I like, I will answer the intent of the thread. No, in my opinion, had that frame been constructed of quality steel in a quality manner like most steel pistols, the frame probably would not have come apart like that. Physics (and metalurgy) tells me that. I don't get all defensive about any of my firearms unless someone is trying to take them away. By the way, even though I agree that steel "probably" would not have suffered like the polymer, I will continue to use polymer pistols.
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OR, depending on pressures, steel could have come apart in a more catastrophic way, much like bursting PVC vs Sch 40 Steel pipe...
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OR, depending on pressures, steel could have come apart in a more catastrophic way, much like bursting PVC vs Sch 40 Steel pipe... That was my thought, too.
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