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Originally Posted by Raeford
"I've been here, thank you."

Contradicts:

"If you're implying I'm not new here,"

It's all good though.
And NO argument about "your candidate" whistle


Ha. Plain to see you were smart enough to vote for the lion instead of the buffalo cow.


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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by Raeford
"I've been here, thank you."

Contradicts:

"If you're implying I'm not new here,"

It's all good though.
And NO argument about "your candidate" whistle


If you go back and read, you implied I just showed up to the thread...I stated that "I'd been here", as in the past 2-3 hrs...believe me or not, IDFC


Again, it's all good.

Now, riddle me this please:
IF the Trump Team/Admin has been being investigated[just disclosed in this weeks hearings] since July 2016, would ANYONE not think that there has been surveillance as part of that investigation? That Obama wouldn't have known/had a hand in this? Or that the "establishment" wouldn't have either?
This wasn't "new news" to many that acted surprised, of that you can be assured.


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These are informative reads.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-listen-jim-comeys-testimony-monday

https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-read-what-comey-said-today



Here's the mantra: Manafort, Stone, Page. If Trump has plausible insulation from them he might survive this. If not, he's toast.



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Looks like Manafort might get thrown under the bus.

http://bigstory.ap.org/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a

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Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success," Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, "will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government."


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
These are informative reads.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-listen-jim-comeys-testimony-monday

https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-read-what-comey-said-today



Here's the mantra: Manafort, Stone, Page. If Trump has plausible insulation from them he might survive this. If not, he's toast.



Hey cupcake, do let us know when they impeach Trump. In the meantime I'm still working on getting funds so we can send your vagina 110 gallons of personal lube for the next 4 years.

I read your links. Nothing but speculation about what Comey said.

Let me repeat that Jeff, in language you will understand. Zero evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. You have yet to post any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.

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It's about like this:

"Do you puff peters?"

"Hell no!"

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Originally Posted by NeBassman
Looks like Manafort might get thrown under the bus.

http://bigstory.ap.org/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a

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Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success," Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, "will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government."


2005, 2006, 2009. ?????

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Originally Posted by NeBassman
Looks like Manafort might get thrown under the bus.

http://bigstory.ap.org/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a

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Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success," Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, "will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government."


2005, 2006, 2009. ?????


Private citizen?


Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's about like this:

"Do you puff peters?"

"Hell no!"

"NAZI!!!"


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As I've said, the key to this will likely be whether Trump can plead plausible deniability. Because clearly, top people in his campaign were deeply in the pockets of Putin.

Trump might just be clueless enough that he didn't know any of this at the time. I'll grant him the benefit of the doubt. You guys think I'm on a witch hunt, but I'm not: I just want the truth, and then whatever consequences flow from that. If the truth is that Trump didn't collude, great! Let's put it to bed and let the man get to work trying to fix the problems he was elected to address.

That's just not what I'm predicting. I'm predicting he's guilty as sin and it takes him down.

You guys are in this fighting retreat whereby stuff you were denying scant weeks ago is now coming out as true... so you're trying to move the finish line so to speak. It won't work. This is only very obliquely about what "you" think. There are grownups at work who don't hork down the latest Breitbart conspiracy theory with their morning coffee. They'll get this figured out. Not you guys.


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Deeply in the pickets of Putin? You might see that, but I dont.

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If Trump has not had impeachment proceedings started by 9/22/17 will you leave this site forever?


Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's about like this:

"Do you puff peters?"

"Hell no!"

"NAZI!!!"


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Originally Posted by benchman
Deeply in the pickets of Putin? You might see that, but I dont.


Start googling. It's out there.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
As I've said, the key to this will likely be whether Trump can plead plausible deniability. Because clearly, top people in his campaign were deeply in the pockets of Putin.

Trump might just be clueless enough that he didn't know any of this at the time. I'll grant him the benefit of the doubt. You guys think I'm on a witch hunt, but I'm not: I just want the truth, and then whatever consequences flow from that. If the truth is that Trump didn't collude, great! Let's put it to bed and let the man get to work trying to fix the problems he was elected to address.

That's just not what I'm predicting. I'm predicting he's guilty as sin and it takes him down.

You guys are in this fighting retreat whereby stuff you were denying scant weeks ago is now coming out as true... so you're trying to move the finish line so to speak. It won't work. This is only very obliquely about what "you" think. There are grownups at work who don't hork down the latest Breitbart conspiracy theory with their morning coffee. They'll get this figured out. Not you guys.



You are as delusional as your democrat friends. The revelation indicates that allies of Obama used their position and power to surveil the Trump Transitional Team.
Comey said on Monday that there were no FISA warrants issued with any Trump surveillance. Either Comey is lying or he is not in control of his agency or privy to any other agency. This indicates a rogue condition existed a few weeks ago or still does today. Comey must be fired and a top down review of intel personnel must be conducted post haste.

The bullcrap emanating from the likes of JeffO have the relevance of dog feces.


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"You guys are in this fighting retreat whereby stuff you were denying scant weeks ago is now coming out as true... so you're trying to move the finish line so to speak. It won't work. This is only very obliquely about what "you" think. There are grownups at work who don't hork down the latest Breitbart conspiracy theory with their morning coffee. They'll get this figured out. Not you guys."

But YOU have apparently. laugh

Do you really think we ever get the real scoop,ever? Really?


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My point is that passionate intensity doesn't win this day. The facts do. Whatever they turn out to be.


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Jeff I know you can't help yourself but shut the hell up. No proof and there will never be any. Google it you say, google will lead you places that say Bigfoot and UFOs are real crazy

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I just want the truth




It was all the result of a video.


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Originally Posted by MagMarc
Jeff I know you can't help yourself but shut the hell up. No proof and there will never be any. Google it you say, google will lead you places that say Bigfoot and UFOs are real crazy


Wait...

What


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Originally Posted by bigfish9684
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Originally Posted by NeBassman
Looks like Manafort might get thrown under the bus.

http://bigstory.ap.org/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a

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Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success," Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, "will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government."


2005, 2006, 2009. ?????


Private citizen?


Sure, and Manafort has had a pad in Trump Tower since 2006 as well. Maybe Trump Tower was "wiretapped" by the FBI after all.


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