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#11908415 - 03/18/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: deflave]
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Originally Posted By deflave
Bad ass.

Have always wanted a .480 and a .50 AE.



Dave


.50AE is a PITA to reload...in that I have found it impossible to apply enough taper crimp to hold the bullets in place. Some suggested using superglue to assist crimping, but I'm not that ambitious. My BFR just sits now, waiting to get sent back to MRI for a .500 JRH cylinder.
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#11909134 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: tex_n_cal]
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Nice!!!

I have the SBH in .454 and absolutely love it. I was thinking of getting a freedom arms at some point.

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#11911021 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: smallfry]
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Originally Posted By smallfry
They are coming out with the 4 5/8" stainless Bisley next month I believe. Can't wait!


Not good: I didn't think I needed another handgun until reading this.
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#11911042 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: 458 Lott]
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Originally Posted By 458 Lott
I can simplify 480 loadwork. 390-410 gr cast, CCI 350, 21.0 gr of H-110.

The 400's really don't recoil much more than the 325's. Yes it's a bigger push, but you don't have the added whip from burning more powder under the 325's.


I am running somewhere close to this load in mine and it has made me rethink my smaller guns. My .44s are now for 250 Keith bullets at 1200-1400. My .480 is now my dedicated big gun and my load is 400-grain-plus hard cast bullets with 110/296. Not much need anymore for 320-grain .44 bullets for me. Though, recoil with the .480 is about all I want. That and my .500 Linebaugh seem pretty similar in that department.
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#11911095 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: tex_n_cal]
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I have some of these. PM me if you want me to send 5-10 or so to try.

https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/475-linebaugh-lbt-420-wln-gc/
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#11911125 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: tex_n_cal]
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.480 along with .500



.480 from another angle.

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#11911135 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: desertoakie]
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Originally Posted By desertoakie
Originally Posted By deflave
Bad ass.

Have always wanted a .480 and a .50 AE.



Dave


.50AE is a PITA to reload...in that I have found it impossible to apply enough taper crimp to hold the bullets in place. Some suggested using superglue to assist crimping, but I'm not that ambitious. My BFR just sits now, waiting to get sent back to MRI for a .500 JRH cylinder.


Did not know that. Thanks.




Travis

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#11911269 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: deflave]
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There are ways to work around the crimping problem on the 50AE, Bowen discusses them in his book "The Custom Revolver." That said, now that 500 JRH (or 500 S&W 1.4") is commonly available I don't see any advantage to a revolver chambered in 50AE.

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#11911350 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: Oregon45]
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Originally Posted By Oregon45
There are ways to work around the crimping problem on the 50AE, Bowen discusses them in his book "The Custom Revolver." That said, now that 500 JRH (or 500 S&W 1.4") is commonly available I don't see any advantage to a revolver chambered in 50AE.


Always wanted a 4 5/8" JRH.

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#11911355 - 03/19/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: smallfry]
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One modification to my statement: a Ruger Redhawk chambered in 50AE fed with five-shot moon clips is definitely the highest and best use of the 50AE cartridge. Aside from that, it does nothing the 500 S&W 1.4" does not do better.

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#11911646 - 03/20/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: Oregon45]
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Originally Posted By Oregon45
One modification to my statement: a Ruger Redhawk chambered in 50AE fed with five-shot moon clips is definitely the highest and best use of the 50AE cartridge. Aside from that, it does nothing the 500 S&W 1.4" does not do better.


IMO, every .50 AE revolver deserves to become a .500 JRH....
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#11911715 - 03/20/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: deflave]
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Originally Posted By deflave
Originally Posted By desertoakie
Originally Posted By deflave
Bad ass.

Have always wanted a .480 and a .50 AE.



Dave


.50AE is a PITA to reload...in that I have found it impossible to apply enough taper crimp to hold the bullets in place. Some suggested using superglue to assist crimping, but I'm not that ambitious. My BFR just sits now, waiting to get sent back to MRI for a .500 JRH cylinder.


Did not know that. Thanks.




Travis


I'd ask what size expander plug is being used. On a hard kicking revo like this I think I'd turn it down to where it is at least .007" smaller than bullet dia. And if I previously lubed the cases for some reason I'd tumble them again to make sure the cases are free of any lube.
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#11911723 - 03/20/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: EdM]
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Originally Posted By EdM
Patrick,

I load my 475's to sub-480 levels with 370 gr cast hollowpoints that Dick Thompson cast for me. I suspect that there is little on earth that would not drop to that combo. I believe I have a few weights of cast 475's if you want to try some out.


Thanks! Let me do some more testing, I may take you up on that offer. If nothing else those big slugs might work very well in a .475 Turnbull smile
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#11913267 - 03/20/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: tex_n_cal]
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[/quote]

I'd ask what size expander plug is being used. On a hard kicking revo like this I think I'd turn it down to where it is at least .007" smaller than bullet dia. And if I previously lubed the cases for some reason I'd tumble them again to make sure the cases are free of any lube. [/quote]

I am using an RCBS carbide die set, so no case lube used. And, not sure of the expander plug diameter...whatever comes with the RCBS set stock.

I like what Whitworth says, every .50AE revolver deserves to become a .500 JRH!
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#11914257 - 03/21/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: desertoakie]
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Originally Posted By desertoakie
Originally Posted By tex_n_cal


I'd ask what size expander plug is being used. On a hard kicking revo like this I think I'd turn it down to where it is at least .007" smaller than bullet dia. And if I previously lubed the cases for some reason I'd tumble them again to make sure the cases are free of any lube.


I am using an RCBS carbide die set, so no case lube used. And, not sure of the expander plug diameter...whatever comes with the RCBS set stock.

I like what Whitworth says, every .50AE revolver deserves to become a .500 JRH!


RCBS is generally good stuff, but I think they tend to make the expander plugs too big. You really need a tight bullet fit AND a firm crimp on a hard kicking revo.
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#11917508 - 03/22/17 Re: Hah! it works! .480 Ruger Bisley Blackhawk [Re: tex_n_cal]
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I have the 6.5" barrel model and it loves 425gr LWFN bullets at 900 FPS. A 200 Lb pig will not stop it from stem to stern.
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