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I'm on the hunt for a steel service pistol in 40 S&W, mostly for informal bullseye-type shooting. Caliber selection is for uniformity of reloading or bulk ammo orders. It needs to have a shootable SA pull and be accurate enough for 6" plates at 50 yards. An old Commander size Para 14-40 would be about ideal. Believe I could also learn to like the CZ-75.

If you guys have any input on any of these 40's, with particular attention to accuracy, I'd appreciate it.



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Why a .40 S&W again? Can you expand on your preference?


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I explained it once, if you need to read it again do so.


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Originally Posted by SargeMO
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Just trying to help.


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how about an EAA Witness elite match ?

they are very nice pistols for the money , with an excellent trigger .....

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Maybe a .40 cal Hi-Power. Mine is pretty accurate, but you'll need some trigger work probably.

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Sarge, I looked for a CZ-75B in .40 for quite a while and had to settle for a P-06 with alloy frame. I like it and it's accurate but, still wish for a 75B. Maybe a Tangfolio can be had in .40?


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I had a Hi Power in 9mm and liked it and always wondered about the pistol in .40. I always like the idea of up scaling the Hi Power platform to .40 better than down scaling the 1911 platform to .40. My apologies for drifting OT but I second the above comment on the browning in .40. It is a nice size pistol.

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Originally Posted by S99VG
I had a Hi Power in 9mm and liked it and always wondered about the pistol in .40. I always like the idea of up scaling the Hi Power platform to .40 better than down scaling the 1911 platform to .40. My apologies for drifting OT but I second the above comment on the browning in .40. It is a nice size pistol.



Browning stop producing the Hi Power in .40. It did not hold up in .40S&W.


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A few months ago I was in Cabela's Gun Library. The fella told me that they do not want anymore .40 S&W's. They will buy them but at a reduced price since they have so many. I forget the figure he gave me of how many they have around the country. But it was a lot. I ask why. He said people are going back to 9mm or .45ACP.


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I have a CZ-75B in 40 S&W, and it's everybody's favorite on family outings. 6" plates? Shucks, the CZ will do a lot better than that at 50 yards.


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Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
how about an EAA Witness elite match ?

they are very nice pistols for the money , with an excellent trigger .....


If I wanted a pistol for bullseye I'd probably go with a 1911. That said, my only remaining .40 is a Springfield Armory P-9 which, like the EAA Witness, is a Tanfoglio CZ-75 clone. It's been a pretty good pistol, but I don't use it much.


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STI and Sig do 1911s in .40 that I know of.

You mentioned a 14/40, which I believe was a double stack...? If so, very accurate 2011s are available from STI and a lot of custom and semi-custom makers.

I know next to nothing about the CZs, except that their Tac Sport models come in .40 and can have very nice SA triggers.


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Look at https://czcustom.com

They have several CZ75 configurations in 40 S&W. I've got them replacing a barrel on a 75B and doing an action job on it while it's there now.


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Thanks for all the replies and particularly Beoceorl who covered what I was looking for on the 75- and has a great sig line to boot.

I like the Hi Power, had an Argentine 9mm years ago that shot real well. This gun will be run one-handed on plates and bullseyes so it'll need a decent trigger. The Sigs & STI 1911's are great guns Blue, just a tad more than I want to sink in a hobby gun. Right now the CZ-75 looks good, mostly because I shot one in 9mm awhile back and really liked it. The trigger mechanism is straightforward and I could clean that up myself.


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I've had both and wish I still had both of them lol. The 1911 I had was a para, double stack mag model. I don't remember the model # but it was a full size and shot very well. I sold it to find another purchase. Wish I had it still, but the .222 I bought with the proceeds is NOt a purchase I regret.

The cz75b I had I bought right here off the classifieds. I have had their .45 (97b) for a long time had had lusted over a .40 for just as long. It was a damned fine shooter as well. My only gripe was that it was an earlier model with a smaller beaver tail and after a couple mags the slide was liberally coated with blood. Every time.

My next .40 will be the cz SP01 tactical.


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I never was a 9mm fan - until all the good ammo has come out. HST etc. Street stats show good results when the chips are down.

Nothing against a 40 but I've lost interest - personally. Its Ballistics are good no doubt. They all have pros and cons.

The CZ has a great reputation. 1911's scream 45 to me except the small Kimber Micro and Springfield EMP in 9.

Many Sig owners are happy if that's an option.

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Can't go wrong with the CZ-75.

I just do not like the .40 S&W for high volume shooting. Too Hot. Combat, but not Bullseye shooting. I have seen veteran shooters develop flinching using to big of a load for precision shooting. That's a fact. There are no exceptions.



The .38 Super or .45 ACP fills the bill.


Hobby shooting?---- who cares. Except for developing bad habits.
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If he's handloading, I don't know why you'd think the loads will be hot.

The softest load I shoot at steel is .40. 3 grains of Clays and a 180 grain bullet is softer than 115grain 9mm IMO.


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Can't go wrong with the CZ-75.

I just do not like the .40 S&W for high volume shooting. Too Hot. Combat, but not Bullseye shooting. I have seen veteran shooters develop flinching using to big of a load for precision shooting. That's a fact. There are no exceptions.



The .38 Super or .45 ACP fills the bill.


Hobby shooting?---- who cares. Except for developing bad habits.
Maybe.






The 40 is a pussycat in the CZ-75. Even my girls enjoyed shooting it when they were in the early teens. The trigger was a bit of a reach in DA, but they were able to reach the trigger okay in SA mode.


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