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I'm down to 2 choices to scope my Forbes 270 Win.I'm highly considering the 3.5-18X44 Swaro Z5 with a turret and 4w reticle. I'm mounting it in Talley lightweight lows (hopefully) or mediums if necessary. I have a 20moa rail but rather not add the weight of rail and rings. Approx. how far will the Z5 turret take me with a 270 140 Bt? I haven't worked up a load yet,just played with some factory ammo and borrowed scope to test initial accuracy.

If anyone is interested, the other scope in the running is a VX6 HD 2-12 with the TMOA reticle. I've got to play with the ejection angle of the rifle first though to see if even the low profile windage turret of the VX6 HD will work on the Forbes.The SWFA SS wouldn't work on the rifle and even some capped turret scopes I had on hand would get in the way of ejection. It worked perfectly on a borrowed VX2 4-12 though with its very low capped windage adjustment.

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Based on Swaro's Ballistic Calculator, 140AB @ 2950, 100yd zero, will get you to 600yds. YMMV depending on actual muzzle velocity and site in distance.

http://ballisticprograms.swarovskioptik.com/Ballistic-Program


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I've cranked my 6.5-284, shooting 140 gr. VLD's at 3K fps, out to 600 yds and it wasn't at it's limit. Not sure how much twist was left, probably not a lot.

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VX-6 is 30mm vs. Z5, 1".

Larger tubes can have more adjustment than 1". I have a couple of VX-6 2-12c42's, neither yet outfitted with CDS.

I don't know how much elevation one get get out of a VX-6.

Here's a Z5 3.5-18x44 BT.

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I have that exact scope on a .300 Win mag. 175 LRX @ 3100, 200 zero I can get to 650.

Have one on my .260 with 129 ABLR @2800, 200 yd zero, to 600.

I like the scopes a lot good, easy to get behind and so far no issues.

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I've thought about that LRX in my .300WM. What's your best load and how does it work on game?

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I've thought about that LRX in my .300WM. What's your best load and how does it work on game?

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When I had my 6.5RUMLN I ran the 127 LRX about 3,350 feet per second. I took three deer, two pigs, and one pronghorn. One deer was 252 yards, the other two were about fifty yards. The pronghorn was 420 and the two pigs were no more than maybe twenty to thirty yards. All bullets left two holes. One pig was the only one with an angle to it. The bullet went in near the diaphragm and exited in the front part of the off shoulder.


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Just for the sake of comparison, here is the VX6 CDS on my Tikka 695 7Mag. It is setup for a 160AB @ 3100fps, 100 yd zero, maxes out a smidge over 900 yds.

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Are you going to shoot it that far?



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I've thought about that LRX in my .300WM. What's your best load and how does it work on game?

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When I had my 6.5RUMLN I ran the 127 LRX about 3,350 feet per second. I took three deer, two pigs, and one pronghorn. One deer was 252 yards, the other two were about fifty yards. The pronghorn was 420 and the two pigs were no more than maybe twenty to thirty yards. All bullets left two holes. One pig was the only one with an angle to it. The bullet went in near the diaphragm and exited in the front part of the off shoulder.

In my 26 Nosler, the 127 gr. LRX wasn't quite as accurate as the 120 gr. TTSX, and 120 gr. E-Tip, both near half MOA.

The 127 gr. LRX was slightly under MOA, the 129 gr. ABLR was slightly over MOA, all at 400 yds. powered by US869.

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I've got to do some work on my Forbes to see if I can get the ejection not quite as steep. I'm concerned the windage turret and cap sticks out farther on the Leupold than on the Swaro and may give me some issues if I don't correct the ejection.

The Forbes ejected great with a VX2 4-12 I had on hand but hit a couple other scopes with larger windage adjustments.If I can get that straightened out I may go for a new VX6 HD 2-12 with TMOA reticle.

I do like the Swaro though and 500 would be my absolute max hunting if even that.

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Originally Posted by SocialFinger
Are you going to shoot it that far?

He could and I wouldn't bet against him popping a target, steel or furry... cool

My kinda hunters, and I'm sure JG would agree, don't snipe at game at 900 yds. But, it's nice to know what your equipment can/will do.

Just 'cause... wink

Now, a nasty hog way out there across a big field, that's different, not game to me, just a pest/target of opportunity.

So, the 30mm VX-6 has a LOT more elevation than the 1" Z5.

I have a couple of VX-6 2-12x42's, just haven't yet set them up with the CDS.

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Originally Posted by SocialFinger
Are you going to shoot it that far?

BTW, welcome to the Fire...

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
VX-6 is 30mm vs. Z5, 1".

Larger tubes can have more adjustment than 1". I have a couple of VX-6 2-12c42's, neither yet outfitted with CDS.

I don't know how much elevation one get get out of a VX-6.

Here's a Z5 3.5-18x44 BT.

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Now, if you want to spend even more, how about an Outdoorsmans custom turret for you new Z5...

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Or, mark the aluminum discs with a Sharpie, like this Z3, where I positioned the dots at 400, 500 and 600 yds, filled in the voids with Sharpie marks, which can be removed with acetone.

I find it hard, covering 400+ yards in 50 yd. increments with three plastic dots... crazy

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
VX-6 is 30mm vs. Z5, 1".

Larger tubes can have more adjustment than 1". I have a couple of VX-6 2-12c42's, neither yet outfitted with CDS.

I don't know how much elevation one get get out of a VX-6.

Here's a Z5 3.5-18x44 BT.

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Now, if you want to spend even more, how about an Outdoorsmans custom turret for you new Z5...

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Outdoorsmans also offers a turret marked in 1 MOA increments.

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The Z5 3-18 has 58MOA of elevation travel compared with the 5-25 with 43MOA. That said a Z5 with the BT option has a removable zero stop that when installed limits rotation to just under one revolution (14MOA).

The VX-6 is designed to have 70 MOA, 75 MOA, and 68 MOA in the 2-12x, 3-18x, and 4-24x respectively.



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Originally Posted by kingston
The Z5 3-18 has 58MOA of elevation travel compared with the 5-25 with 43MOA. That said a Z5 with the BT option has a removable zero stop that when installed limits rotation to just under one revolution (14MOA).

The VX-6 is designed to have 70 MOA, 75 MOA, and 68 MOA in the 2-12x, 3-18x, and 4-24x respectively.


Thanks for that info.

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How much importance do you place in the parallax adjustment on the Z5 or lack of it on the VX6 2-12? Maybe not much at 200-300 yards,but what about 400-500 or even beyond since the VX6 should dial to 800-1000?

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