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The problem with Navitimers is they are too big and too busy. The best Rolex's were the older ones that are antiques now.

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Originally Posted by Pugs
Very nice. I like the face of that model.


It is neat how the face looks like tongue and groove planks on a ship.



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Originally Posted by Starman
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60s-80s they used a Valjoux calibre.
80s - 2000 they used a Zenith calibre.


Negative. I have one of the first 'El Primero's' from Zenith from 1971 and Rolex used them back then. Spanish side of the family had the concession for Spain so I am well versed.


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Rolex does maintain its value over time. Ive managed to acquire a few watches over the years, at one time I had 9 in rotation. I am now down to 3. A 15 year old Omega Seamaster (was my first watch and still my favorite). A breitling headwind (day-date), and a luminox (my "beater). I dont do it for the recognition. To be fair, the more common comment I hear regarding Rolex watches is that either they are "fake." Or that someone bought it just to impress. You can tell a fake as mentioned above (look for the sweeping second hand). All that said, I like and wear my Seamaster 5 of 7 days anymore. I work in computers for a living, and do carry an I phone. I refuse to wear the new "smart" watches. I have too much technology in my life already. Wearing a mechanical, or an automatic watch, gives me a certain amount of pride. Something so intricate, and still very accurate is pretty neat. I recognize nice watches when I see them, but rarely mention it. The pleasure of wearing a nice timepiece means different things to each.

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It is worth noting that there is a difference between a fake Rolex and Rolex homage watch. Many of the homage or Rolex inspired watches are very fine watches in and of themselves.

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Let me know if you're still having trouble spotting it.




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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Starman

60s-80s they used a Valjoux calibre.
80s - 2000 they used a Zenith calibre.


Negative. I have one of the first 'El Primero's' from Zenith from 1971 and Rolex used them back then.
Spanish side of the family had the concession for Spain so I am well versed.


Daytonas in 71' and for some yrs either side, have the Valjoux 72 series chronograph movement.
Maybe you can point out which exact model/case/dial/bezel you have from this guide:

http://www.vintagedaytona.com/en/reference-guide

or here >>
History of the Daytona cronograph:

http://www.timeandwatches.com/p/history-of-rolex-cosmograph-daytona.html


1987- Valjoux 72 was discontinued in Daytonas,
1988 - Rolex released the Daytona with Zenith El Primero 4030.
2000- Daytona gets an in-house 4130


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I LOVE the mechanical wizardry in self winding movements, it takes me down the rabbit hole of complications. But I steadfastly refuse to spend dosh on something that ultimately is counting down the minutes and hours to my demise. Have my Mom's midsize Timex and my Dads old wind up Gruen wwII era for shiny stuff. Iphone + all the other crap like computers when online are plenty. Just my thoughts... My other half is flat ate up with nice time pieces. Priorities, preferences and points of view I suppose.

If one is so inclined for a Rolex, X shop Tag-Heuer, Omega and Breitling. All are high quality, lovely works of hourlogical art as is a Rolex.

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I'm a watch guy, so I have dozens of them.

My good watch is a Jaeger-Lacoultre Grand Reverso in 18K yellow gold that my Wife gave to me for my 40th birthday. I think that she got a good deal on it at Borsheims in Omaha. My first Wife gave me a Rolex as a wedding gift and I gave it back to her when we got divorced. That gave me a bad taste for Rolex watches.

My daily wear watches are mostly Bertucci A-2Ts, I think that I have a dozen of them hanging in the closet.

Since I discovered Bertucci watches, I have given a couple dozen of the A-1S, A-2S, and M-1S styles as gifts to Eagle Scouts in my Son's Troop and as high school graduation gifts.

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Never heard of Bertucci watches, but I like the classic looks and price of them a lot. Thanks for the lead.

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This website led me down the Bertucci hole...

Check out the refurbished watches they sell...

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Originally Posted by Longbob
Never heard of Bertucci watches, but I like the classic looks and price of them a lot. Thanks for the lead.


I bought most of mine via eBay or the bargain bin and certified pre-owned options on the Bertucci site. The A-2Ts are noticeably lighter than the A-2S. My Wife particularly likes that they have solid lugs, so that she can use ribbon bands in a variety of colors. The Bertucci bands are very expensive and better quality than the $2 Chinese bands, but the Chinese bands come in dozens of different colors. When she left, I gave our 2015/16 exchange student an M-1S with extra Chinese ribbon bands in the colors of the Austrian, British, French, German, Italian, Spanish, and Swiss flags.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I'm a watch guy, so I have dozens of them.


My daily wear watches are mostly Bertucci A-2Ts, I think that I have a dozen of them hanging in the closet.

Since I discovered Bertucci watches, I have given a couple dozen of the A-1S, A-2S, and M-1S styles as gifts to Eagle Scouts in my Son's Troop and as high school graduation gifts.


I've had my eye on Bertucci field watches and felt their pull. I'm saving for a couple more Seiko auto divers first, but there's an A-2T in my future.


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Damasko


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Originally Posted by kingston
Damasko


There's an under rated brand, I have 3 Damaskos and they're bullet proof in toughness and quality. Their stem design and ice hardened case make for a great outdoor watch, 1 of the few 100m rated watches I swim with.

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The two below German companies make high grade watch cases and complete watches
for various lesser known good value priced , but quality ETA swiss movement based brands.

http://www.w-fricker.de/englisch/full_service.html

http://www.ickler.de/en/home/


ICKLER ARCHIMEDE: $800 (excluding tax)
http://www.perfectionwatches.com/si...tches---ARCHIMEDE-Watch-Collection_4.jpg

FRICKER- Muhle Glashutte: Ti case $3000 +
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Muhle-glashutte-seebataillon-gmt-5.jpg


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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
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Damasko


There's an under rated brand, I have 3 Damaskos and they're bullet proof in toughness and quality. Their stem design and ice hardened case make for a great outdoor watch, 1 of the few 100m rated watches I swim with.


The cases are indestructible. I have an early DA36. It's a new classic.



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Sinn tegimented case watches look strikingly similar to Damasko.

The Sinn has a different type of hardening, also has a higher grade swiss movement,
copper sulfate capsule and argon gas filled case, proprietary lubricants and Viton gaskets.
which can matter to some and not matter much to others.

Sinn is Tegimented steel vs Damasko Ice Hardened steel, The Damasko crown decouples
from the crown tube during screwing, Sinn has no lube cell.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/sinn-856-non-utc-vs-damasko-da36-best-1002673.html


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Phone are making watches obsolete.

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Originally Posted by hanco
Phone are making watches obsolete.


I highly doubt cellphones have an impact on the Rolex market.



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