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Originally Posted by ROMAC
The male version is an incubus


Which in thois case would not be the old Hag but the old Phag.


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To make a very broad statement, sleep paralysis in general has been interpreted as a normal mechanism which prevents us from doing ourselves damage during dream sleep or REM sleep. Believe it or not, whatever. But there is a scientific deduction of the method of paralysis (chemical) while the reason for paralysis may still be argued.
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Two powerful brain chemical systems work together to paralyze skeletal muscles during rapid eye movement (REM) sleep, according to new research in the July 18 issue of The Journal of Neuroscience. The finding may help scientists better understand and treat sleep disorders, including narcolepsy, tooth grinding, and REM sleep behavior disorder.

During REM sleep -- the deep sleep where most recalled dreams occur -- your eyes continue to move but the rest of the body's muscles are stopped, potentially to prevent injury. In a series of experiments, University of Toronto neuroscientists Patricia L. Brooks and John H. Peever, PhD, found that the neurotransmitters gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) and glycine caused REM sleep paralysis in rats by "switching off" the specialized cells in the brain that allow muscles to be active. This finding reversed earlier beliefs that glycine was a lone inhibitor of these motor neurons.


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I do it about every month and it still freaks me out because it is primarily a result of a dream of conflict. I need to fight, run, yell, punch, shoot, et al, but cannot because I'm paralyzed. Another interesting aspect of REM induced psychological effects is the OBE, out of body experience. My particular version of this phenomenon is flying. I don't mean I just thought I flew, I mean I really feel like I'm flying simply by willing it to be. No fear associated except maybe when I'm flying thru trees or under power lines, etc. It is though my spirit disassociates itself from my body and exercises it's power normally overwhelmed by the flesh. When I wake up I'm absolutely elated and can't wait to do it again. Still trying to figure out how to intentionally trigger this. If I ever figure that out I'll probably spend the rest of my life asleep.


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Originally Posted by achadwick
...I'm no doctor, but get the sleep study done right away...


Having expensive and unnecessary tests done is why health care costs so much.


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Originally Posted by byc
this is one ominous thread.

Wasn't there a movie where a woman was ghost raped during her nightly sleep?

Found it...The Entity with Barbara Hershey.

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Carla Moran awakens one night to find herself being beaten and raped by an unseen presence. Terrified of what's happening to her, and shunned by friends and family who think she's lost her mind, she seeks help from parapsychologists. The researchers soon discover that evil spiritual force has been drawn to Carla and is responsible for the violent attacks. The question now, however, is how do they stop it?

Based on a supposedly true story.
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Originally Posted by Armednfree
Originally Posted by ROMAC
The male version is an incubus


Which in thois case would not be the old Hag but the old Phag.
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This is a cool thread.........I hope guys keep weighing in.

I've never had the "old lady" visit, and it's been at least a decade since I had a real scare the hell outta me nightmare.

I discovered by accident that taking a vitamin B12 supplement over a period of time will ramp up my dream frequency, and really bring them a vivid level I'd never experienced before. I'm talking HD, color, full dialog, etc...........movie night while I sleep.

YMMV, because I'm wired backwards from the norm. I can fall asleep right after drinking coffee, but Benadryl makes my heart race. And the one time I drank "tension tamer" herbal tea right before bed, and felt anything BUT relaxed. But the B12 phenomenon isn't limited to just me, because I read a similar testimony on an amazon review for the same B12 I used.


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I had a visit from the old Hag just last night. Since I've got the flu, I couldn't fight her off and the bitch had her way with me. She looked just like Jessica Alba. I didn't want my wife to feel bad or worry so I told her the Hag looked like Hillary though.

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Grim reaper. Your time is near. Double down on life insurance. If you need a beneficiary, I'm open. cool


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a lot of males who walk among us don't know that they are possessed, or have a dark side. others call it the femininene, and it must be released if we're to become actuated. say what?

that is the feminine must be recognized, or she'll revolt and visit you in unfriendly night dreams?

anybody ever heard of Adam's first wife? can't seem to remember her name, sorry.

anyways, just don't get caught in that gray-zone between sleeping and awake. story is, that's where She lives.



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Originally Posted by bubbajay
I have been in the dozing off stage lately and my legs kick really hard...and I gasp for a breath....I might need to do one of those sleep studies...


My understanding on this is actually your brain giving you a jump start. If your heart rate slows too fast your brain actually thinks it's stopping and will send a twitch out to stimulate your heart. I've kicked my wife a few times.


Deal with it.
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Originally Posted by AKBoater
Originally Posted by bubbajay
I have been in the dozing off stage lately and my legs kick really hard...and I gasp for a breath....I might need to do one of those sleep studies...


My understanding on this is actually your brain giving you a jump start. If your heart rate slows too fast your brain actually thinks it's stopping and will send a twitch out to stimulate your heart. I've kicked my wife a few times.
It causes you to kick your wife? I think I'm developing that.

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[/quote]It causes you to kick your wife? I think I'm developing that. [/quote]

lilith isn't her name is it? wikipedia has a bit on Lilith. and we all know how reputable that site is.


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I've had the sleep paralysis thing off and on for years but very seldom anymore since into my senior years. Scary when it first started happening back in my late teens-early twenties. After a few times though it got less scary as I started recognizing what was happening from past times. Still took real effort to force myself to move and wake up. The only thing I can imagine that it might compare to is maybe like being in a coma but subconsciously alert.


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In my instances they are pure Hellish nightmares. There are ladies like Kendall Jenner, Elle Macpherson, and/or Taylor Hil beside me, and I can't move. Frustrating to the extreme.

Takes me back to the childhood nightmare. Dolly Parton was my mom, and I was a bottle baby.


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well, see there it is. conflicts to no end, in that narrow, brief time zone between awake and sleep. and do we have control of the script or not?

when the movie on the screen begins to play, then pass the popcorn, relax, and enjoy the show.

if'n ya wake up, you can recount how great it was.


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Damn, lotta you guys must be really in touch with your feelings, never heard of such, i sleep like a fuggin stone!


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Damn, lotta you guys must be really in touch with your feelings, never heard of such, i sleep like a fuggin stone!
I do too but later I remembered boning Jessica Alba.

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Nothing about that reminded you of Alba-core did it! grin


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In my instances they are pure Hellish nightmares. There are ladies like Kendall Jenner, Elle Macpherson, and/or Taylor Hil beside me, and I can't move. Frustrating to the extreme.


I had to Google Ms. Hill.............I'm going to have nightmares! grin


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I had it maybe once a month as a teenager and maybe a half dozen times a year in my twenties. Haven't had one on over a decade.

I was raised in a very religious family and my dad told me to call out to Jesus, which worked. Eventually I was told by a TM'er that it's the first state for transcendental meditation and astral projection which was big back in the 60’s and 70’s when I was a kid. Never played with that stuff, but it's weird.

I think the Pentecostal types call it the witch on your back. Crazy stuff.

The Mormon Church story of Joseph Smith's first vision is right in line with sleep paralysis.



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