Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire New information on the cyanide bomb in Idaho

Actually, any incident of collateral damage has written reports that detail the incident, the location and the cause of it.

The report should be available from the regional USDA APHIS office that operates in that area.

Funny how they don't cite any USDA APHIS sources. Or provide any verification that is easily obtainable from the USDA.

The USDA and BLM are both agencies within the Interior Dept.

The capsules themselves are only a couple dollars. The spring loaded guns may be around $20, and can be reused for years. They are an excellent way of removing trap shy, call shy coyotes that are killing livestock. But they are not a tool to be used just any where. Around urban areas,other methods need to be used. They cannot be set on private land without a signed landowner agreement, and agreements have to be signed with blm and forest service offices if used on federal grazing land as well. Some fed land is off limits to their use as well.

I believe the US Department of Agriculture is an independent cabinet level agency.

You must be in the business.

You actually know what your talking about.

In all the areas I worked, USDA had an MOU with USFS and BLM where agriculture was conducted.

We had written contracts with each landowner as well, and used only the methods where we had written permission from the rancher.

Wondering if there was any tampering with signs or location of trap by greenies. Media stories are definitely half lies so far.

Animal damage control folks are people too. Some are lazy, feel safe in their endeavors, and do not always follow procedure. Yes, someone (agency) will pay.

If the signs were missing, I would feel safe in saying they were taken from the area before the sheriff and press was called.

Not that THAT liberal rag wouldn't lie about it, if it furthered their agenda.

I'm betting the set was made according to procedure.

I'm sure not falling for anything that newspaper reports. They lost me with the first article when they said the "explosion from the M44 knocked the boy backwards and killed the dog, and covered them both with cyanide powder..."

Not only have M44's been a target of bunny huggers for years... and the liberal media, but trapping, and even shooting coyotes have been targets.

They would like nothing better than to see and end to ALL hunting.

They can and do make mistakes. But the department takes the use of M44's VERY seriously.

I could see a mistake as a cause before negligence or disregard of the rules and policies in place.

One thing of interest is that overall, use of M44's in some USDA districts have increased because getting qualified personnel that know enough to be effective trapping or snaring coyotes is becoming increasingly hard to do.

Many times a pretty inexperienced guy is taught to use M44's because they are ineffective at trapping.

I knew one dumbazz trapper that went nearly a year without catching a coyote in a trap set. He sure knew how to set those M44's though.