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Hanco,
I wonder about the NBT, would think it would blow up on critters at mega speed.
Have you killed anything with it?
DF
The 140 BTs at 3200 from my 264 were pretty tough in water jugs. Usually going 5 jugs. The core would come out but still about the same overall performance as the AB version. Haven't had a deer hold one yet. Thanks for the followup on the 140 NBT. But, 3,200 fps is pretty fast, 140's in the .264. 140's at 3,200 fps is about Kosher for the 26 Nos, a bigger case. Wonder what PSI's you're generating, the .264 at 3,200 fps? What load are you using? DF I'm using RL25 in my load DF with a 26" 264 Win Mag. Was able to get the same speeds out of IMR7828 and Retumbo with140's pretty easily. I've shot this load for about 5 years outta Nosler cases, CCI250's and the 140 AB/BT. Not saying it's a cream puff load but I'd guess around 64-65K going off speeds chrono'ed and QL listings of it. It's funny but our own. Wayne Van Zwoll here just mentioned he runs 140 Partitions with 7828 for 3200 as well from his. That was another great shooting load I remembered him writing about in the past so I tried it, but the 25 and 140 BT/AB just shoot exactly the same for me. ![[Linked Image]](http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/beretzs/RIFLES/M70%20264%20Win%20Mag/36A03FE9.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/beretzs/RIFLES/M70%20264%20Win%20Mag/0578DEF4.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/beretzs/RIFLES/M70%20264%20Win%20Mag/2D1F71CF.jpg) It`s obvious that the 264 mag is worthless.You did`nt hit the bullseye once!!! 
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Hanco,
I wonder about the NBT, would think it would blow up on critters at mega speed.
Have you killed anything with it?
DF
The 140 BTs at 3200 from my 264 were pretty tough in water jugs. Usually going 5 jugs. The core would come out but still about the same overall performance as the AB version. Haven't had a deer hold one yet. Thanks for the followup on the 140 NBT. But, 3,200 fps is pretty fast, 140's in the .264. 140's at 3,200 fps is about Kosher for the 26 Nos, a bigger case. Wonder what PSI's you're generating, the .264 at 3,200 fps? What load are you using? DF I'm using RL25 in my load DF with a 26" 264 Win Mag. Was able to get the same speeds out of IMR7828 and Retumbo with140's pretty easily. I've shot this load for about 5 years outta Nosler cases, CCI250's and the 140 AB/BT. Not saying it's a cream puff load but I'd guess around 64-65K going off speeds chrono'ed and QL listings of it. It's funny but our own. Wayne Van Zwoll here just mentioned he runs 140 Partitions with 7828 for 3200 as well from his. That was another great shooting load I remembered him writing about in the past so I tried it, but the 25 and 140 BT/AB just shoot exactly the same for me. It`s obvious that the 264 mag is worthless.You did`nt hit the bullseye once!!! That's a great point... any takers, I'll start the bidding off at a nickel! 
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beretz,
I've had two .264's, and in the first one (a pre-'64 Model 70 Westerner, the model with the 26" barrel) Ramshot Magnum was the clear winner with 140's, getting a little over 3200.
The second one was a Ruger Hawkeye with a 24" barrel. Magnum was the winner with 130's, but RL-25 did best with 140's--though top velocities were only around 3100. Thanks JB.. Seems I'm not too crazy I guess. Never tried Magnum but heard it was excellent.
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beretzs, you and DF have too much fun, here I am reading about the 264 WM [love the pre-64's in that chambering] and 26 Nosler, and looking at a 7x61 S&H, when I should be building a 7MSM.  , you guys are messing me up. 
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Just wanted to weigh in and agree with the OP. Bahh humbug to the 26 Nosler. TOTALLY REDUNDANT ROUND. IM SHOOTING THE 6.5RSAUM AKA 6.5 GAP AND JUST DONT SEE NO REASON TO ABANDON THAT AND GET ANOTHER RIFLE WITH SAME PERFORMANCE. I HOPE THERE IS NEVER A NEW CARTRIDGE, EVER. MAYBE SOMEONE HEAR CAN EXPLAIN WHY.
LOL, caps off I don't understand why new cartridges seem to bother some so much. It's the American way. Would you prefer three or four .gov approved standard rifles...to go along with 3-4 standardized vehicles, maybe 3-4 standard domiciles in which we house ourselves? How about 3-4 meal choices allowed to be served?
Or maybe rifle loonieness is a genetic thing that either afflicts or doesn't, leaving the rest scratching their heads.
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beretzs, you and DF have too much fun, here I am reading about the 264 WM [love the pre-64's in that chambering] and 26 Nosler, and looking at a 7x61 S&H, when I should be building a 7MSM. , you guys are messing me up. Get them all--- No reason denying yourself all that fun
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beretzs, you and DF have too much fun, here I am reading about the 264 WM [love the pre-64's in that chambering] and 26 Nosler, and looking at a 7x61 S&H, when I should be building a 7MSM. , you guys are messing me up. Get them all--- No reason denying yourself all that fun LOL, there it is, all it takes is a bit of paper, ink and time. 
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beretzs, you and DF have too much fun, here I am reading about the 264 WM [love the pre-64's in that chambering] and 26 Nosler, and looking at a 7x61 S&H, when I should be building a 7MSM. , you guys are messing me up. Get them all--- No reason denying yourself all that fun LOL, there it is, all it takes is a bit of paper, ink and time. And, wifey... DF
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Got clearance papers from her moons ago DF, she informed me early on a man can have MUCH MUCH worse habits that guns, hunting, race cars and harleys.
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Got clearance papers from her moons ago DF, she informed me early on a man can have MUCH MUCH worse habits that guns, hunting, race cars and harleys. "It could be worse" is always a good defense. Glad it's working for you... DF
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We need the 26 Nosler because we need it. Not everyone can still drive a Studebaker. That said I don't have one and don't want one and don't need one. I have a 257 WBY, & a Pre64 M70 264.
I like the old stand buy's and if I were to build another rifle it would be a 6.5 X 55. Time has proven it again and again. Where will the 26 Nosler be in 25 or 50 years???
I might not need the 26 Nosler but you might need it and that is why we have it. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
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We need the 26 Nosler because we need it. Not everyone can still drive a Studebaker. That said I don't have one and don't want one and don't need one. I have a 257 WBY, & a Pre64 M70 264.
I like the old stand buy's and if I were to build another rifle it would be a 6.5 X 55. Time has proven it again and again. Where will the 26 Nosler be in 25 or 50 years???
I might not need the 26 Nosler but you might need it and that is why we have it. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Spoken like a true Loony... DF
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Faster because you can. Whats a few extra grains of powder for more speed? No belt what's not to like?
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Got clearance papers from her moons ago DF, she informed me early on a man can have MUCH MUCH worse habits that guns, hunting, race cars and harleys. "It could be worse" is always a good defense. Glad it's working for you... DF Yeah, [it could be worse] while ducking , She's a good one DF, I get by with A LOT! 
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I am just glad that everyone agrees that the 6.5-300 Weatherby is completely justified.
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Everyone needs one of them also
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In the USA if you want it you can probably get it. God Bless America
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In the USA if you want it you can probably get it. God Bless America Damn right GSP! 
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The 140 BTs at 3200 from my 264 were pretty tough in water jugs. Usually going 5 jugs. The core would come out but still about the same overall performance as the AB version.
Haven't had a deer hold one yet.
Thanks for the followup on the 140 NBT. But, 3,200 fps is pretty fast, 140's in the .264. 140's at 3,200 fps is about Kosher for the 26 Nos, a bigger case. Wonder what PSI's you're generating, the .264 at 3,200 fps? What load are you using? DF Guys, I'm still reading about the 26 N and I'm NOT knocking it. I'm simply comparing and considering... For many years (since the 80s) I've been shooting 139 HBTSP in the 7 RM and using IMR 4350 I'm getting 3300 fps and good case life. 140 6.5 (264)--3200 ....................1/2 mm-.020 139 7mm (284)--3300 The BC of the 6.5 will (I think) show up at extended range but I'm wondering how many of us would actually hunt/shoot at ranges long enuff to benefit ? Jerry
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We need the 26 Nosler because we need it. Not everyone can still drive a Studebaker. That said I don't have one and don't want one and don't need one. I have a 257 WBY, & a Pre64 M70 264.
I like the old stand buy's and if I were to build another rifle it would be a 6.5 X 55. Time has proven it again and again. Where will the 26 Nosler be in 25 or 50 years???
I might not need the 26 Nosler but you might need it and that is why we have it. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. This is good, but wish I were still driving that Studebaker - or two or three of 'em.
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