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Please point to where I said it was "better" than a Montana.... Not you Sir.I was responding to the post above mine that said he wouldn't trade 2 Kimbers for his Ruger. I don't know why it linked my post to yours and I didn't mean it in a challenging way.When I was looking at them,I was looking for a light weight deer rifle for my daughter and I just saw it too expensive compared to the Kimber,which looked like a better deer rifle to me. I didn't say it was "better" than a Montana either. I just said I wouldn't trade mine for 2 Montanas. Its just an opinion. I like mine. You may not. More fun to me than a Montana. I have other rifles if I need a bigger caliber. Its not necessarily better than anything, but it has no recoil and my son can kill deer all day without getting recoil shy. He has a gun he can shoot forever and have tons of fun with it.
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I wouldn't give mine up for 2 Montanas. Its a boatload of fun to shoot and will make a great deer rifle for most places I hunt. Keep your shots to 100 yards or less and it will do the job. Might even got to 150, but that would be stretching it a bit. Great way to punch paper and will use it on coyotes soon. I don't have a Ruger but I gots a Browning Low Wall in .357. I've killed three pronghorns with it. The longest shot was just over 250 yards at a doe that had been gut shot by another hunter. I used a 180 gr SSP and a heavy load of H110. She turned just as I fired and the bullet caught her just above the "elbow" on the front shoulder and did a lot of damage. She flopped out of sight into the creek bed. I reloaded with a 215gr gas check and ran up to the creek bank. She was trying to climb out the other side and I shot her thru the neck. The big lead bullet broke her neck and just hammered her into the ground. One other doe was about 150-160 yards walking broad side. A 158gr XTP hit her right behind the shoulder - bang - flop. I started shooting 125 gr hollow points, but my nephew shot a larger deer with it at 100 yrds and it didn't pass all the way through. I decided to grab some 125 gr JSP ammo. It shot to the same POI as the HP stuff and it did penetrate great. Left a quarter sized hole coming out. That's ok in my book.
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Obi Wan,
Over the Holidays we went to my BIL's farm. After dinner we went out in his pasture to shoot rifles (Hey, it's Nebraska...) One of the boys had some diet pop that no one could stand to drink so we shot up about two dozen cans of the crap. At 100 yards, the kids 223' s and 17's blew them up but the .357 with 110gr XTPs just shredded them. Then we set up some small pumpkins. The small bores knocked holes in the back but the 357 just caused them to evaporate. One of my great-nephews, who is 10y/o, was giggling so hard every time he shot one I thought he'd pee his pants.
“My horn is full and my pouch is stocked with ball and patch. There is a new, sharp flint in my lock and my rifle and I are ready. It is sighted true and my eyes can still aim.”
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got both the 77/357 & 77/44 stainless guns a few years ago, and i like them pretty well.
after a few scope changes, i found the Leupold 1-4x works well for me on both of them.
i havent shot the 77/44 as much, but have tried quite a few different powder/bullet combinations in the .357; mine prefers bullets in the 125/140/150 weight class.
158's and heavier have not shot as well in my rifle; with 158/160/170/180's & several assorted powders i have tested , groups were considerably larger. i tried a bunch thinking i'd stumble on a magic combo it liked, hasnt happened yet.
heaviest bullet i could make it like was the Sierra 150JHC, still have a couple hundred of those.
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Obi Wan,
Over the Holidays we went to my BIL's farm. After dinner we went out in his pasture to shoot rifles (Hey, it's Nebraska...) One of the boys had some diet pop that no one could stand to drink so we shot up about two dozen cans of the crap. At 100 yards, the kids 223' s and 17's blew them up but the .357 with 110gr XTPs just shredded them. Then we set up some small pumpkins. The small bores knocked holes in the back but the 357 just caused them to evaporate. One of my great-nephews, who is 10y/o, was giggling so hard every time he shot one I thought he'd pee his pants. Sounds like a blast! Those 110 gr. XTP's should do a number on a whitetail.
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