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We need to get trailer to move our children back and forth from college. We will be using trailer for many many years 15+. Looking at a 7x14 or a 6x12. Should I go with a double axle or double axle. Trips will be long but not alot of weight and I don't antisipate there being heavy loads very often. Will pull with our suburban and 3/4 ton pickup, but suburban on most trips. Any help with brands and size will be great. Thanks and HAPPY HUNTING
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You'll have greater flexibility with a tandem axle in that you can carry more weight, if ever needed.
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Trailers Plus is one company that seems to offer a good product. https://www.trailersplus.com/
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I've a 7x14 Wells Cargo and love it. Aside from better handling the tandem axles have guided me home safely with a flat or 2. Tandem for sure!!!
I started using it as a competition cooking trailer but now it's seen everything from camping/hunting trips to various school moves across the state to get newbies off, and yes storage...UGH! Best use these days is to and from the beach for weeks at a time. I can even put the modified gold cart and bikes inside.
Been looking at plans to make it totally self sufficient for overnight WMA trips.
Anyway love the brand, size and flexibility.
Sidenote---I really appreciate the side door that's also screened as well as the pop up air vents. Installed a braking device for $149 on the inside of my SUV that work great with the trailer. I do wish I had gone with the extended tongue to accommodate an external generator. But a couple of Honda 2000's took care of that.
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I can't speak for any others, but the Aluma brand are good trailers.
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Many landscapers in my area use single axle trailers because they are not required by state law to license them. I prefer tandem. YMMV
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Tandem axles for sure.
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Here tandem trailers are required to have brakes, that is good, but brakes can be troublesome.
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get the larger tadem axle trailer.
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Radial tires are worth the chips.
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Whatever you decide, load distribution is key! Don't put the heavy stuff behind the axle/axles, or the tail will wag the dog!
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See if you can find one with a vee front. They pull easier and use less fuel.
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I prefer the drop back too. Not only for wheeling on heavier items, but if you ever own an ATV it's simply DRIVE ABOARD. If you feel you may own an ATV, buy one wide and high enough that driving on while seated is an option.
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Tandems will ride smoother and be easier on your cargo. As the front tire hits a bump or a hole, the other one will go up or down to partly compensate.
You'll have to check your state laws for what's required for brakes. More and more states are going to requiring a device to set the brakes if it comes loose from the truck. That in itself is easy to do but it does require a battery on the trailer, which requires the wiring on the truck to keep it charged.
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I just bought a 5'x8' single axle for camping/hunting. It is an Interstate Loadranger purchased from Trailers Plus. It was a painless experience. There are a lot of well done videos on You Tube to help you compare features and mfgrs.
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Get a drop down rear door with a side door V nose. You can put shelves in the V nose. I have a 6x12 single axle set up like this and it is handy. If you deal with steep hills while towing, trailer brakes are nice.
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Brakes are better than nice, say a moose, or something pops up quickly.
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The states vary on what trailers require brakes. Most go by weight. Idaho's law is screwy. They require them on trailers over 1500 EMPTY. I have one that weighs 1100 empty so they're not required. However, it has tandem 2k axles so I can load it to 4k gross. That's a lot of weight to be coming off a steep hill without brakes. It does have them, BTW.
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Regardless of what any state dictates as law I would have brakes on just about ANY trailer.
But that's just because I've seen just about anything you can imagine in my hundreds of thousands of miles across this great country.
Especially up and down 85, 95 and 26.
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I just bought a dual axle 14x7 a couple months ago just for the sake of owning one. I ordered it with rear barn doors due to the space required to drop the ramp door plus you can't put heavy loads in with a forklift with a ramp in the way of the forklift.
After-market ramps are cheap if I have the need to run my 4 wheeler in or the like.
The side door is a must have.
I gotta be honest, now that I own it, if I had to do it over again I would drop one size down. 14x7 is almost too much for my "more often needs". It's sorta too tall and with the pointed nose and all it's pretty damn long. The 14ft mark on mine is where the square measure ends, the 18 inchs or so in the nose is extra.
Gotta 6x12 dump bed that gets used much more often even now, but just due to it's size.
Mine came with all plywood interior, interior lights, my choice of paint due to ordering it from the factory. Both axles have breaks. Nice LED lights all round. Cost me 3200.00 after taxes.
I'd say if you are thinking a 6x12 might work go for it, I didn't and kinda regret it. Maybe even a single axle.
It'd just be more handy and get used more often with most short runs than the 14x7 has worked out to for me to be.
Mine is working out to be a great storage shed though!
After looking long and hard I realized there wasn't as many manufactures as I first thought, Just lot's of different logos on the same trailers.
I'm sure you could find some Cadillac of a high end trailer out there but overall they are pretty much all alike.
Stick with the 3/4 inch plywood floors and 1/2 inch plywood walls. 3500lb axle(s) with breaks.
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I just bought one in Dec, little smaller than what you're looking at - Haulmark Thrifty Hauler, 6x10 V-nose, single 3500 lb axle, 2990 gross weight, side door, rear ramp. I had brakes put on even though not required. Technically could get it recertified to 3500lb gross with the brakes. Came with rear fold down jacks (handy for loading when not hitched to vehicle), roof vent, interior 12v light, four D-ring tie downs in floor. Added horizontal E-track strips on each wall about halfway up for attaching cargo straps.
I using a 1/2 ton pickup (2013 Tundra, 4.6L) so wanted to stay with smaller trailer, but big enough to carry my HD motorcycle (so rear ramp). At 6 ft wide I don't need to add towing mirrors, can see fine. It tows/rides very well empty or loaded, but drops my highway mileage from about 19 to 14 mpg. The v-nose isn't counted in the dimensions, so cargo box actually longer than 10', adds maybe 18". A 6X10 will carry a lot of stuff.
My sister started moving last month, so took it up to NY and carried a load for her from Albany area to Watertown area. The brakes are a very good idea for towing in winter! She still has the trailer and can pull it with her Ford Explorer. I'll get it back in a month or so.
When I get it back I thinking about getting the floor and maybe the ramp Line-X coated. Its bare 3/4 inch dryplus flooring now. Have checked with local applicator and they can Line-X the wood.
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I just had one built a couple of months ago by a company in AR (Delta trailers). They did an excellent job. I looked at aluminum, but honestly there wasn't much weight savings and steel is considerably tougher. It is 6'6"x20'. I used tandem 7,000lb torsion (oil bath) axles, full drop rear ramp, led lights, and the best tires I could find. There's no way I could overload it with what I do.
The main reason I decided to go with steel over aluminum was I had a blowout with my old steel trailer. It would have beaten the fender of side off an aluminum, but it barely did anything to the steel.
I spent a year doing research on what I wanted before I had it built and I'm glad I did. There are definitely do's and don'ts.
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I like aluminum, they don't rust, but the axle is still steel. and they can rust, and break. I know, I spent a week in Bemidji one day.
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How about indoor/outdoor carpet, or even standard "tough" indoor carpet? You could make it removable and clean it as necessary.
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Someone mentioned radial tires. I'll 2d that. Trailer radials aren't made like car radials. They have stiffer sidewalls to handle the weight. I've read that LT rated tires will work much like trailer tires but they're likely more expensive. I have LT E rated tires on a 4 horse trailer and they work very well, although I don't load it all that heavy.
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I have a 6 x 12 Universal Trailer. If I had it to do over I would get a 7 x 14. I wold like to have that extra foot to get between 2 bikes. At 6' the bars are nearly touching. Since I don't have the bikes all the way forward it would be nice to have a couple more feet behind them. Hauling dirt bikes is the main purpose of my trailer. http://www.universaltrailers.com
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How about indoor/outdoor carpet, or even standard "tough" indoor carpet? You could make it removable and clean it as necessary. Was thinking that I wouldn't want anything that could hold moisture underneath against the wood. Don't want mildew or rot to get started. If I don't use Line-X I'll get floor paint.
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Deck paint works great and is very durable. I used it on a utility trailer I build 8 years ago. It's open and stored outside. The paint is still in pretty good shape and it's taken a beating.
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Another thing about all trailers, I carry two spares. Trailer tires are more apt to blow, and I don't like stopping at the next town trying to replace the spare.
A friend, and I joke that boats would be free, all we need is a 2" ball, and a spare to put on those rigs sitting along the road on a jack while the owner is off for a new wheel, and tire. Hook up, place wheel on, pull off jack, free boat!
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I like aluminum, they don't rust, but the axle is still steel. and they can rust, and break. I know, I spent a week in Bemidji one day. They will if not protected, but I don't have to worry about somebody getting into it with a sharp pocket knife or can opener. I'm also much less worried about a blow out ripping up the side or pulling a fender off. They both have merit but I'll take the steel. To each their own.
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Another thing about all trailers, I carry two spares. Trailer tires are more apt to blow, and I don't like stopping at the next town trying to replace the spare.
A friend, and I joke that boats would be free, all we need is a 2" ball, and a spare to put on those rigs sitting along the road on a jack while the owner is off for a new wheel, and tire. Hook up, place wheel on, pull off jack, free boat! Sometimes the happiest day a fisherman ever has is when he sells his @#$%^ boat. You'll be forced to keep that one forever. Heh, heh.
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Figure out the amount of weight you will be hauling and size the trailer capacity appropriately. An overrated trailer will beat the snot out of your cargo. An undersized trailer will break down at the worst time and place possible.
Tandem axles are smoother riding and more stable, but you have twice as many tires to replace and twice as many bearings to maintain. A flat is less serious, but more likely to happen. They are also much harder to push around by hand if you need to re-position slightly.
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We need to get trailer to move our children back and forth from college. We will be using trailer for many many years 15+. Looking at a 7x14 or a 6x12. Should I go with a double axle or double axle. Trips will be long but not alot of weight and I don't antisipate there being heavy loads very often. Will pull with our suburban and 3/4 ton pickup, but suburban on most trips. Any help with brands and size will be great. Thanks and HAPPY HUNTING Double axle - and 7' wide - not 8.. (easier to 'stay within the mirrors').. Longer (say, 14') can be better due to easier backing/maneuvering issues. I've had an American Hauler 12'X7' for a few years now - and used it just like you indicated; moving kid back/forth from college. Use it now to bring the bikes to Harley dealer for service if/when weather sux.. The comment re: tires above as to increased wear etc., IMHO don't really apply nearly as much as if the same setup was on a camper.. Usually the enclosed trailers like mine are empty 90% of the time - and even when loaded rarely get to the GVW of the trailer (8K in my case).. Just always bring a spare tire/wheel and appropriate tools/jack to change one if the need ever arises..
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Ruger243223, I have a 7x16 tandem axle cargo trailer. It can haul both of my ATV's. It is rigged inside with two beds, 6' countertop, 21 CF Fridge, rooftop A/C, drawers & shelves. Has met our camping needs since 2003. I have $5200 in it including the price of the trailer new. Cannot complain.
If I were doing the hauling you mentioned I would have purchased a single axle for sure! Easier to tow & less tire worries.
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Thanks for all the info. Really appreciated. I am leaning towards the 7x14 or 7x12 single axle. Going to look this week and see I have never really looked at one up close for any amount of time. HAPPY HUNTING and thanks.
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