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I'm used to wiping off a safety, but I'm also used to my Kahr. Thinking of picking up the Shield, and leaning toward the no safety model. Any good reason not to go with no safety?
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No safety for me. Just don't feel the need for it.
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Definitely no.
It's not large enough to be reliable, either to know it's off or to swipe it off when it's on. IME
It can't be removed on the Shield like in the full size and compact model.
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Definitely no.
It's not large enough to be reliable, either to know it's off or to swipe it off when it's on. IME
It can't be removed on the Shield like in the full size and compact model. No safety.
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that depends - do you want a safety? If you do, get one with a safety. If not, get one without.
it's all personal preference.
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the only pistol I own with a safety is a 1911 I carry cocked and locked. I have two shields one in 45 one in 9mm no safety.
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I would rather not have a safety. If I had the Shield with a safety,I don't think there would be any problem just keeping it off.
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I"ll probably be out voted here, but I won't carry without a safety. I want to keep my right foot and my right testicle. You can always carry with the safety off if you so desire. Some say that the extra second to flip it off is critical. With some practice, you can flip the safety off while drawing and placing your support hand in place.
But that being said, I think it's up to the individual. I once bought a .380 without a safety by mistake. Tried carrying it for a while,but felt a little naked, or apprehensive is a better word, so I kept it for use in my home. Go with your desire.
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My Shield 45 has a safety. I am so used to safeties on my 1911's that anything else seems naked without one. I alternate CCW carry with it and my Kimber Ultra Carry II, and I don't want to have to think about which one it is when I draw.
It takes all of a nannosecond to draw, flick the safety off, and fire. I just like the feeling of an extra measure of safety while carrying.
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I'm used to wiping off a safety, but I'm also used to my Kahr. Thinking of picking up the Shield, and leaning toward the no safety model. Any good reason not to go with no safety? None at all. No point in having a thumb safety on a striker fired handgun. One of the main advantages of a striker fired handgun is the absence of a thumb safety ... less to go wrong at the worst possible moment. Can't imagine why they ever chose to offer any with a thumb safety.
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To clarify why I ask....
My hand injury a year ago involved significant nerve damage. I have been shooting with my weak hand only, as a result. I am recovering much of the use of my previously strong hand, and have recently recovered to the point that I can shoot with my normal strong side, but acquiring a good grip is slow with the guns I have.
I just did some experimenting with various pistols, and found that I can get a good shooting grip on the Shield in my injured hand with haste, but not other models that I am familiar with. I have no problem with the 1911 safety with my weakened thumb, but the Shield safety would be difficult at this point. I am lead to expect further progress with my hand,but it's looking like we're talking at least another year to get reasonably close to normal.
In the meantime, think I can get by much better with the Shield than any other pistol I've tried. My only concern, since I know little about this pistol other than its reputation for reliability, is whether there is any disadvantage in going without the safety. And no,pocket carry is not in the picture, nor is appendix carry.
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To clarify why I ask....
My hand injury a year ago involved significant nerve damage. I have been shooting with my weak hand only, as a result. I am recovering much of the use of my previously strong hand, and have recently recovered to the point that I can shoot with my normal strong side, but acquiring a good grip is slow with the guns I have.
I just did some experimenting with various pistols, and found that I can get a good shooting grip on the Shield in my injured hand with haste, but not other models that I am familiar with. I have no problem with the 1911 safety with my weakened thumb, but the Shield safety would be difficult at this point. I am lead to expect further progress with my hand,but it's looking like we're talking at least another year to get reasonably close to normal.
In the meantime, think I can get by much better with the Shield than any other pistol I've tried. My only concern, since I know little about this pistol other than its reputation for reliability, is whether there is any disadvantage in going without the safety. And no,pocket carry is not in the picture, nor is appendix carry. I think your question has been answered. I'm glad to hear of your improvement.
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Yes, I think I have enough of an answer. Thank you all. Taking advantage of a sale this week, and going with no safety. Any other issues I need to know about with the Shield?
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If S&W would've done a better job with the safety it might be ok but with what they designed, no way.
As for why not just leave it off? I let my cousin shoot my first one and he handed it back with the safety on. I sold it and bought one without the next week.
Just keep the TG covered and take care holstering.
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I waited until S&W offered the shield sans safety before I got mine. Something that I have found to be handy is a trigger shield: ![[Linked Image]](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71M7XqsxQGL._SL1000_.jpg) It keeps the trigger covered when the pistol is not in your holster, and functions as a minimalists holster. I got mine from Amazon .
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Yes, I think I have enough of an answer. Thank you all. Taking advantage of a sale this week, and going with no safety. Any other issues I need to know about with the Shield? Like you I generally have zero concerns over my ability to flip off a safety, but I think until you're hand is back to 100% you're making the right call. Another exception would be if I were planning on really lightening/shortening the trigger pull. I'd prefer a active safety in that case.
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Beo's pic of the trigger shield,is just another reason I want a gun with a thumb safety. I think he was smart to buy one.
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The issue really isn't having A safety, it's having THE SHIELD safety. And the Shield safety sucks. I've seen several cases of people who were just going to leave it off, who found it on when they needed to shoot and have seen people miss it under stress.
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