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H4831sc and 130 gr here also You'll be burning that load in your new BobinNH Commemorative rifle, eh?  I will be adding a nosler partition to that mix, and yes I will be using it in MY BobinNH rifle. 
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H4831sc and 130 gr here also You'll be burning that load in your new BobinNH Commemorative rifle, eh? It would be sweet!
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Try several different powders, as each rifle is different, and will prefer one powder over another one. I've only reloaded for one 270, over a 35 year period, and it loves H4831. I have never seen the need to go to anything else. James, The .270 Win may be the exception to the above rule. If a .270 Win won't shoot with H4831 and 130gr C&C bullet, it won't shoot. My families been shooting them for 4 generations and have yet to find one that won't shoot with that combination.
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Yep, I've only loaded for two .270's out of at least a dozen that didn't shoot 130's best with H4831. The exceptions were an FN Mauser that preferred Reloder 19, and a NULA that shot extremely well with IMR4350. But those are exceptions that prove the rule.
With 140-150 grain bullets have found several .270 that also liked other powders, and got somewhat more velocity than with H4831, especially Ramshot Hunter and Reloder 26. But H4831 still worked well in them.
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Yep, I've only loaded for two .270's out of at least a dozen that didn't shoot 130's best with H4831. The exceptions were an FN Mauser that preferred Reloder 19, and a NULA that shot extremely well with IMR4350. But those are exceptions that prove the rule.
With 140-150 grain bullets have found several .270 that also liked other powders, and got somewhat more velocity than with H4831, especially Ramshot Hunter and Reloder 26. But H4831 still worked well in them. Exceptions not stated in hypotheses disprove rules. They're counterexamples by definition. You're killing me John!
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I don't own a 270 Win but thought (per my JOC readings) that IMR4831 was king. Curious why/how H4831 is considered top dog.... temperature consistency, etc?
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No, sir. JOC's powder was the original 4831, which was sold by Hodgdon. The IMR version came later, and is faster burning.
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I don't own a 270 Win but thought (per my JOC readings) that IMR4831 was king. Curious why/how H4831 is considered top dog.... temperature consistency, etc? All of the above. I also have great luck with my .270's, 130's, and H4831 and I've been loading them since we still got the reclaimed WWII H4831 Powders, if that tells you anything about stability. I also like the fact it is always consistent lot to lot, gives me a full case for my loads without compression and I can use it for more than half the rifles I own, so fewer powders to store in my reloading closet. Have to admit I'm pretty old school and I tend not to venture far once I find something that works really well. Some of the other powders available now might be worth trying if I was just starting out. Bob
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No, sir. JOC's powder was the original 4831, which was sold by Hodgdon. Don't know why I thought it was IMR. I stand corrected--thanks.
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Yep, I've only loaded for two .270's out of at least a dozen that didn't shoot 130's best with H4831. The exceptions were an FN Mauser that preferred Reloder 19, and a NULA that shot extremely well with IMR4350. But those are exceptions that prove the rule.
With 140-150 grain bullets have found several .270 that also liked other powders, and got somewhat more velocity than with H4831, especially Ramshot Hunter and Reloder 26. But H4831 still worked well in them. Exceptions not stated in hypotheses disprove rules. They're counterexamples by definition. You're killing me John! Exactly. I read that to my executive assistant and she said, "Exceptions disprove a 'rule' !"
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Unless the "rule" is that H4831 works well MOST of the time...
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I don't own a 270 Win but thought (per my JOC readings) that IMR4831 was king. Curious why/how H4831 is considered top dog.... temperature consistency, etc? All of the above. I also have great luck with my .270's, 130's, and H4831 and I've been loading them since we still got the reclaimed WWII H4831 Powders, if that tells you anything about stability. I also like the fact it is always consistent lot to lot, gives me a full case for my loads without compression and I can use it for more than half the rifles I own, so fewer powders to store in my reloading closet. Have to admit I'm pretty old school and I tend not to venture far once I find something that works really well. Some of the other powders available now might be worth trying if I was just starting out. Bob Yep I still have the steel cannister that 50 pounds H4831 powder came in for 42 cent sa pound.Used it all up years ago
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My new favorite 270 Win powder is Reloder 26. Just yesterday I tried it out for the first time and got 3100 fps using 61.2 grains with a 140 grain Berger VLD out of my Browning A bolt. I also shot my normal load with the same bullet using 58.0 grains of H4831. That load gives me 2850 fps. Both loads grouped 3 shots into less than 1/2 inch at 100 yards. The faster load was about 6 inches higher on the target.
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I use IMR 4350. Good groups.
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Is there published data for RL 26 and 140 grain accubonds out there? I could not find it anywhere.
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I use IMR 4350. Good groups. Works in mine. Hasbeen
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