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Dang. I leave for a day or so and guns are being shoved up backsides. Rough neighborhood! My first handgun was an H&R 949 .22 bought for me by my Dad at a local hardware store. I killed a lot of possums and such with it when they were worth something for their fur. I was talking with a local gunsmith who was a strong Ruger advocate. The Super Single Six is probably far superior, but I was happy with the H&R. The gunsmith wouldn't work on an H&R. His quote was something like, "I wouldn't have an H&R shoved up my ass,". My friends and I often wondered what make of handgun he would have shoved up his ass. A Ruger, I reckon. I personally am not anxious to have any handgun shoved up my own ass. Others' mileage may vary. I dated a girl for a while who often used the 6 inch barrel of a 686 as a dihldoh yeah but was the front sight still on?
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The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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Pretty easy. I'd go with 44 if I didn't reload. I do, so it's the 45 for me. Also, the FA97 doesn't come in 44, so it makes it even easier to pick the 45 in an easy packing gun.
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I now have 3 .45's.
Ruger 3 screw 4 5/8"
S&W Mountain gun
S&W 25-7
It has been quite a learning experience loading cast for them. The Ruger must have been screwed with. Ended up opening all the throats to .4555
The Mountain gun was a bit tight. Opened that one up to .452
The 25-7 is .452
The .45 Colt is the first handgun I ever loaded for. Had to restudy the process and figure out what works and what doesn't when shooting cast. Almost there!
Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
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After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb
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If it is your first bigbore revolver get the .44. Ammo and components are easier to find and you are less likely to have problems matching bores, throats, and bullet diameters.
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45 ![[Linked Image]](http://naturalgasnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trumpandflag.png) 44 ![[Linked Image]](http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161226182723-president-barack-obama-exlarge-169.jpg)
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OK, assuming you plan to reload for either caliber and assuming both calibers are offered in the same pistol. Which would you pick and why? Easy - both! 
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty of give me death! P. Henry
Deus vult!
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45 44  Too cool. Makes the choise a LOT easier. I had a .44 three screw SBH line bored to .45 Colt by Jim Stroh. He fitted a Shilen barrel, custom long ejector, custom front sight. I did the trigger job and grips. It's a tack driver. I like it a lot better than when it was a .44 mag. DF ![[Linked Image]](http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/rush2830/45LCSBH005JPG.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/rush2830/IMG_0046.jpg)
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If you can't read my writing, part of it off the page, it's a 255 gr. Bull-X SWC over 18.5 gr. 4227. I don't think Bull-X still makes bullets, this was a few years back.
This was a Keith type SWC, the target was at around 20 yds. shot off a bench. Most of the variation was vertical, probably a function of how the gun was held. It would probably shoot one hole with a Ransom Rest.
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that's a really nice rig--and very accurate too.
for the past 35 years i've used W296, but i always figured if i were starting over i might consider using 4227.
a friend of mine used 4227 back when he shot in competition, with great results...
i remember the Bull-X bullets (A-Zone; and Zero too)...
all learning is like a funnel:
however, contrary to popular thought, one begins with the the narrow end.
the more you progress, the more it expands into greater discovery--and the less of an audience you will have...
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4227 leaves some residue, but has a really smooth pressure curve compared to H-110/296. It's easy on guns. It's my favorite in the 24" Marlin Cowboy .45 Colt. Pushing 300 gr. Precision Cast slugs at max velocity, it burns pretty clean...
Jim Stroh's work is top notch.
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I like both, but when it comes to cast bullets for game I prefer my Ruger Bisley in .45 Colt! Gun: S&W Model 29 .44 Magnum 6 1/2 inch bbl. Bullet: Montana Bullet Works/Lyman 429244 255 gr. SWC-GC (.430) Powder: Alliant 2400 20.8 grs Primer: Federal 150 Case: PMC Velocity: 1333.16 fps Comments: Cylinder throats .431 Gun: Ruger Bisley .45 Colt 7 1/2 inch bbl. Bullet: Montana Bullet Works 250 gr. WFNGC (260 grs./.453) Powder: Hodgdon H-110 24.4 grs. Primer: CCI-350 Case: Federal Velocity: 1450.80 fps Comments: Cylinder throats .4525 ![[Linked Image]](http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc265/pbcaster45/IMG_0121.jpg)
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I like that! I have a custom .45 Colt Bisley by Jim Stroh that I picked up used several years ago. It won't quite group with the line bored SBH that Jim did for me, but is no slouch... It's prettier than the SBH... I fitted the grips, installed the Ruger medallions. DF ![[Linked Image]](http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/rush2830/IMG_0039.jpg) Here's a three screw .45 Colt Blackhawk that I fitted with a SBH grip frame, SBH hammer, after market rear sight, a trigger job and blue MANY years ago. Micarta ivory grips have turned yellow over time. ![[Linked Image]](http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/rush2830/Ruger45Blackhawk001.jpg)
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