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I just did a chamber cast of my 1895 today. The pics below show the results.

Next to a 30-30.

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Next to a 303 Savage

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30-30 on left. 303 Savage on right.

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Just before I punched out the cast.

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Freshly removed cast from my 1895

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If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

Savage, never say never.


*Note: to avoid wrinkles in a Cerrosafe cast, pre-heat the barrel with a hair dryer. You don't have to get it hot, just nice and warm.


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Hello Gary,

I used MidwayUSA's metal. They say it is better than Cerrosafe but I have limited experience with both. Maybe same, same. Worked well enough for me to get the info I was pursuing.

Thanks for the tip though. I warmed it, but not quite enough.


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...but it is still correct-for-1895 stamped as a 303 barrel, so obviously re-chambered?

How about your comparison of other 1895's distance to sight dovetail, is yours the same 5.5", or shorter?

I love mysteries like this!!


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It is 5.5 inches like all others. The barrel stamps on 1895s had "303" stamped within with the address. The caliber stamp wasn't separate like 99% of other guns are.


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The tell-tale extra length of neck in your chamber is too long for either cartridge (correct?). It's just the shoulder that has been cut forward, so 30-30 brass will chamber. It still headspaces correctly on the rim. Maybe this why SAAMI chamber dimensions got started..., just sayin'


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JeffG,

No on the neck.

The 303 is way to fat on the bottom. It doesn't make it quite halfway. Lol.

I already knew the rifle was 30-30.

I will show range targets, and documentation in the future. wink

Maybe some on here have already seen it. wink

How cool would it be to kill a deer with the first Savage ever chambered in a Win caliber. Then again, I heard 30-30 is no longer adequate for deer. I better go after an elk.


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Hey, if you can shoot a Tiger with a HP, that 95 should be good for a T-Rex, Joe.


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No gunsmith marking as to who rechambered it?

Or was it sent back to Savage Arms for this? But you would think they of all people would remark the barrel to 30-30.


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You can't re-chamber a .303 to .30-30. The body of the .303 is bigger and the reamer would mostly churn against air instead of cut steel. To do so would require a fair amount of barrel setback, and since Jeff said the sight dovetail remains at the original prescribed distance, that didn't happen.

Another scenario would be someone bought, begged, borrowed, or stole an unchambered .303 barrel blank from Savage/Marlin and fitted/chambered it as a .30-30 on his (or a customer's) M1895, or else it indeed was done at the factory.


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The truth of this rifle is forever lost in the turn of calendar pages, but it is a fun mystery to build our own stories on..., it never too late for alternative facts!
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Originally Posted by JoeMartin
Hey, if you can shoot a Tiger with a HP, that 95 should be good for a T-Rex, Joe.


No T-Rex. Just want to connect with a nice deer with it. I feel pretty confident that I can do just that. Besides, all the T-Rex's were killed off in Michigan around the turn of the century.



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Come on down to Maryland's Jurassic State Game Lands if you want to try it out, Jeff. Located right inside the D.C. Beltway.


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People say with Savage "never say never." But in your case so much time and potential number of owners have passed since the rifle was built that I'd say your perspective should be "with years, never say never." There's no accounting for what's happened to this thing over the last century. But as Gary said about ducks...


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Letter it.


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Originally Posted by S99VG
People say with Savage "never say never." But in your case so much time and potential number of owners have passed since the rifle was built that I'd say your perspective should be "with years, never say never." There's no accounting for what's happened to this thing over the last century. But as Gary said about ducks...


A rebarreled rifle?






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A relined barrel ?? does the Barrel have the JM stamp ?

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