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Sorry, guys. Kaliforna law says you can't record any conversation w/o consent or w/o notifying those involved that they are being recorded. It's under the wire taping statue.
This all came about when a drunken City of San Jose Councilman demanded that the cops arrest a guy for various things that led to a loud argument, etc. in a public place. The people offended were not willing to pursue the matter which was blown out proportion by the drunken councilman.
When they refused, the councilman threatened to cut the police department's budget if they didn't do as he demanded. Knowing they'd need proof of his remarks, one of them recorded the conversation on a recorder carried on his belt.
When the councilman tried to carry out his threat, the recording was released by the police officer's association, not the administration.
This outraged the state's politican's who made the practice a felony.
The really strange thing is that now the same politicans are demanding the cops be recorded whenever they contact anybody, and must release the recordings, including any videos, if there is any "controversy" about the contact.......
Going to make for some "interesting" court cases, etc.
I suspect that this whole issue of who can record who and under what circumstances one may release such a recording is going to have some nasty fallout over time.
How about the recording of Donald Trump's comments about women ? Then there was Linda Trip who recorded Monica Lewenski's descriptions of Bill Clinton's antics.
I see this as still another attempt by the leftys to divert public attention and support for the Repubicans and the Trump Administration. Goes to show us how desparate and amoral these people really are. E California's Penal Code Section 632 isn't quite as simple as that. Protection is provided for "confidential communications" which are defined as, " ... any communication carried on in circumstances as may reasonably indicate that any party desires it to be confned to the parties thereto" ... "but excludes a communication made ... in any other circumstances in which the parties to the communication may reasonably expect the conversation may be overheard or recorded." Penal Code Section 632(c) See: http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-632.htmlIf memory serves me, at least some of the videos were recorded in a public place (restaurants). At least as to the restaurants (where conversations can be easily overheard by waiters/waitresses/busboys, etc.) it would be a question of fact as to whether a participant to the conversation would have an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation. See: http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law
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They were charged with the same type of crap in Houston a while ago.
PP just didn't want things like this to get out,along with their allies.
Political hunt for sure.
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Could have shot them in cold blood and taken their chances with a murder trial. At least they wouldn't still be killing babies.
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That's just more mindless BS, trying to make something out of nothing. If you read what it really says, there's no possibility of getting any "signs of life" with that type of abortion. It was all hypothetical, but some appear to be too stupid to realize the difference. They rant without reading. The abortionist explains to the undercover journalists that she performs Dilation & Evacuation (D&E), also known as dismemberment abortions, and takes into consideration the feelings of her staff members who might be upset at the sight of a whole baby coming out during an abortion. Well, I can read and you cannot, or you choose not to: "At one point in the footage, the abortionist explains the difficulties abortionists encounter when a baby comes through the procedure with signs of life: “In Arizona, if the fetus comes out with any signs of life, we’re supposed to transport it. To the hospital.”
When asked if there is “any standard procedure for verifying signs of life?” Taylor responds by saying, “The key is, you need to pay attention to who’s in the room, right?”"
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That's just more mindless BS, trying to make something out of nothing. If you read what it really says, there's no possibility of getting any "signs of life" with that type of abortion. It was all hypothetical, but some appear to be too stupid to realize the difference. They rant without reading. The abortionist explains to the undercover journalists that she performs Dilation & Evacuation (D&E), also known as dismemberment abortions, and takes into consideration the feelings of her staff members who might be upset at the sight of a whole baby coming out during an abortion. Well, I can read and you cannot, or you choose not to: "At one point in the footage, the abortionist explains the difficulties abortionists encounter when a baby comes through the procedure with signs of life: “In Arizona, if the fetus comes out with any signs of life, we’re supposed to transport it. To the hospital.” When asked if there is “any standard procedure for verifying signs of life?” Taylor responds by saying, “The key is, you need to pay attention to who’s in the room, right?”" She only said that to answer their leading, rhetorical questions. She didn't say it had ever happened, and the method of abortion she personally performs makes it impossible. All you "read" was the BS they feed the gullible public. It looks like you fell for it twice so far, even after it was explained to you.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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You can choose to believe whatever you say. The person who performs the abortions said this, as quoted in the article:
"the abortionist explains the difficulties abortionists encounter when a baby comes through the procedure with signs of life"
And yes, you know well that a baby can still be alive even after D&C, even more so if someone is trying to keep the body intact. The abortionist mentions later in the article that she does not like to have an "intact" body to send to the crematory. D&C only cuts away as many of the body parts, primarily limbs, as are necessary to extract the baby through a less-dilated womb than normal. D&C does not necessitate that the baby be killed first.
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That's just more mindless BS, trying to make something out of nothing. If you read what it really says, there's no possibility of getting any "signs of life" with that type of abortion. It was all hypothetical, but some appear to be too stupid to realize the difference. They rant without reading. The abortionist explains to the undercover journalists that she performs Dilation & Evacuation (D&E), also known as dismemberment abortions, and takes into consideration the feelings of her staff members who might be upset at the sight of a whole baby coming out during an abortion. Well, I can read and you cannot, or you choose not to: "At one point in the footage, the abortionist explains the difficulties abortionists encounter when a baby comes through the procedure with signs of life: “In Arizona, if the fetus comes out with any signs of life, we’re supposed to transport it. To the hospital.” When asked if there is “any standard procedure for verifying signs of life?” Taylor responds by saying, “The key is, you need to pay attention to who’s in the room, right?”" She only said that to answer their leading, rhetorical questions. She didn't say it had ever happened, and the method of abortion she personally performs makes it impossible. All you "read" was the BS they feed the gullible public. It looks like you fell for it twice so far, even after it was explained to you. a) Retired janitor(piss boy)with inside info. b) Liberal c**t Take your pick
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You can choose to believe whatever you say. The person who performs the abortions said this, as quoted in the article:
"the abortionist explains the difficulties abortionists encounter when a baby comes through the procedure with signs of life"
And yes, you know well that a baby can still be alive even after D&C, even more so if someone is trying to keep the body intact. The abortionist mentions later in the article that she does not like to have an "intact" body to send to the crematory. D&C only cuts away as many of the body parts, primarily limbs, as are necessary to extract the baby through a less-dilated womb than normal. D&C does not necessitate that the baby be killed first. You're obviously not paying attention very well. The fact she said that is only because they asked a carefully worded question. If you'd take to time to learn what a "D&C abortion" means, you'd realize it doesn't produce intact living fetuses. She also said: Also in the footage released by CMP, the abortionist says that using digoxin (referred to as “dig”) as a feticidal agent makes the procedure less physically strenuous for her. You're only seeing what you want to see, and not what she's really saying.
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One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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You can choose to believe whatever you say. The person who performs the abortions said this, as quoted in the article:
"the abortionist explains the difficulties abortionists encounter when a baby comes through the procedure with signs of life"
And yes, you know well that a baby can still be alive even after D&C, even more so if someone is trying to keep the body intact. The abortionist mentions later in the article that she does not like to have an "intact" body to send to the crematory. D&C only cuts away as many of the body parts, primarily limbs, as are necessary to extract the baby through a less-dilated womb than normal. D&C does not necessitate that the baby be killed first. You're obviously not paying attention very well. The fact she said that is only because they asked a carefully worded question. If you'd take to time to learn what a "D&C abortion" means, you'd realize it doesn't produce intact living fetuses. She also said: Also in the footage released by CMP, the abortionist says that using digoxin (referred to as “dig”) as a feticidal agent makes the procedure less physically strenuous for her. , and not what she's really saying. THAT, as always, would be YOU!
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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You can choose to believe whatever you say. The person who performs the abortions said this, as quoted in the article:
"the abortionist explains the difficulties abortionists encounter when a baby comes through the procedure with signs of life"
And yes, you know well that a baby can still be alive even after D&C, even more so if someone is trying to keep the body intact. The abortionist mentions later in the article that she does not like to have an "intact" body to send to the crematory. D&C only cuts away as many of the body parts, primarily limbs, as are necessary to extract the baby through a less-dilated womb than normal. D&C does not necessitate that the baby be killed first. You're obviously not paying attention very well. The fact she said that is only because they asked a carefully worded question. If you'd take to time to learn what a "D&C abortion" means, you'd realize it doesn't produce intact living fetuses. She also said: Also in the footage released by CMP, the abortionist says that using digoxin (referred to as “dig”) as a feticidal agent makes the procedure less physically strenuous for her. , and not what she's really saying. THAT, as always, would be YOU! It's not my fault you're so gullible that you fall for their word games.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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I know more about abortions than you do, and clinics, and feticidal agents, and whether babies can be still alive after D&C. You clearly don't know what you think you know.
Over and out, on this thread.
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On a more interesting note, none other than the very liberal, pro life LA Times has come out against the felony charges against the people who did these videos. It seems that they are concerned that when "investigative" reporting is done by their side, such as the undercover videos done to expose practices in slaughter house, etc. nobody gets procecuted. There are several other examples as well.
Most don't realize it, but Kalifornia has some very strong appleate law concerning selective procecution. That means if you have a law and you don't use it equally, you can't use it selectively.
Now that would make a strong defense already well founded in law. E
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