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Idaho Power is the main power company in so. Idaho. We have quite a few dams and they produce lots of hydro power. However, the feds require them to buy wind and solar power and pass it on to us. This power is more expensive to produce than hydro but IP must pay for it anyway and pass it on to us. Right now, the dams are producing more juice than IP can handle yet they still have to buy the wind and solar power. It all has to go somewhere so the hydro power production has been curtailed, even with all that free water flowing over the dams.

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more power to you. maybe you'd like to buy-in to some upcoming nuclear power plants? high tech stuff for sure. let's don't talk price/cost.


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Welcome to Kalifornia's power plan, RC. When the state of Kalifornia's voters went for 20% of their power from wind or solar, my electric bill doubled. And I still qualify for the cheapest rates due to my age and small home.
What did our voters, who weren't told of this cost do ? They let the legislature raise that to 50% in the years to come. Heck, we haven't even reached to 20% level yet. E

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I'd like to see ethanol the hell out of gasoline too. Monumental failure, not to mention detrimental to all motors.

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I bet river will still be fluctuating 10ft every day and night when we float Hell's Canyon this Summer, though.


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Apparently hydro power isn't green enough. They should require wind and solar companies to buy hydro power.


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this is everywhere
I've got relatives in NV that have solar on their roofs and sell it back to the grid. Nothing new, been going on for years

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Hydro, supplement with nat gas. Take down any wind or solar that does not work without Gov't Subsidies.


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The funny thing is that I have colleagues in both Northern California and Southern Oregon with quite large geothermal resources, and they can't find anyone interested in buying the power. No interest, and the regulatory cost to develop it is prohibitive.

Greenies are nuts.


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We are at .23 a KW here. You have to be really careful with that rate. What are you guys paying?

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Just a way to justify subsidies.

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Our normal residential rates are 8 cents winter and 8.5 cents summer. At one time, before the feds started mandating that they buy green power, they offered people a chance to buy green power should they decide to use it. People who wanted to got the privilege of paying more for it. I doubt they got many takers. It was rather stupid since our regular power is mostly hydro which is every bit as green as wind or solar.


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Central planning. Nuff said.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
We are at .23 a KW here. You have to be really careful with that rate. What are you guys paying?


I think we're around .09C per kw/hr. My FIL in Chelan county pays less tha .03cents per kw/hr


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I ran a supposed 500w heater for a few weeks in my boat during a cold snap. Over a $160 power bill. I'd kill for .09c per kw hour. My boat would have multiple heaters running all winter.

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10-11 cents here.

I have an old meter, wired into a meter base, in line in a short extension cord. If I have things I wonder about, an old freezer for example, I put the meter on that ONLY, and read it to see what that alone is costing me.
Found out that way, that we had freezers and fridges on our property that cost twice as much as others to run. Junked and bought new appliances as it paid for itself...


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Apparently hydro power isn't green enough. They should require wind and solar companies to buy hydro power.


Most wind and solar power companies do not own the grid. So they don't buy power, they only sell it at ridiculously high prices to whoever owns the grid.


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Originally Posted by achadwick
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Apparently hydro power isn't green enough. They should require wind and solar companies to buy hydro power.


Most wind and solar power companies do not own the grid. So they don't buy power, they only sell it at ridiculously high prices to whoever owns the grid.


Our local electric coop. generates electricity with hydro power and when the lakes are low they use natural gas. Natural gas is MUCH cheaper than wind or solar. The Feds subsidize wind and solar construction but the power company has to build the network the get the green energy to the power grid. Our coop has become infiltrated with socialist/Democrats from Austin and they are pushing for green energy.

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I have an old meter, wired into a meter base, in line in a short extension cord.


You can buy small devices that plug into an outlet, and let you check different things very easily. miles


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Don't you love liberal laws?


The only liberal I approve of is the portions on my plate.


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