Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire if & when the earth's human population reaches a maximum, will that be good?

Hahaha!

Anyway..going vegetarian is stupid. It solves nothing.

Watch Dr. Allan Savory's Ted talk.

Muslims will never slow down their rate of population, well maybe once they take over the world.

In 1918 the Spanish Flu killed between 20 and 40 million world wide, in 1 year. It made the Black Death look like a hiccup epidemic. The reason is unknown, but it tended to hit younger, healthy men the hardest, the exact opposite of most diseases.
A round of this could completely eliminate California which would really check their balance.

You beat me to it. In my defense, I've been at work all day and nowhere near a computer.

20 million people in a die-off would certainly garner the attention of the msm. and well it should.

it's effect on 7 billion people or more? probably not so much. we'd have plenty of spares to take their place. some might have to be trained to work and do the jobs of the vacant positions.

Gus, I am sure you already know this. The carrying capacity of the Earth for humans has already been exceeded......several times.

Each time the population declined significantly, then rebounded. As technology advanced, each "malthusian correction" occured at a higher population level than the last.

Genetics and anthropology combine to tell us that we humans came within a hair's breadth of extinction at least once in the not so distant past.

We have held old Malthus off decades longer than predicted via fossil fuel, mechanized agriculture and transportation, advanced pesticides, and even more advanced plant genetics.

But the next correction will happen, and when first world nations find their citizens starving, the ensuing warfare may well make the last human "near extinction event" pale by comparison.

there it is, a man who speaks with the understanding of the breath of history in the background.

on the one hand losing 20 million people would be near catastrophic at least in the msm terms. and the President whomever they are at the time will have to talk fast and reassuringly. but still, in reality 20 is real, but represents a small proportion of the total count.

it'd be good to recognize what we've gotten ourselves into. and i'm innocent on may part. i'm innocent.

We passed K a long time ago. It's not just food you know.

About 60 million perished in the relatively compressed time period of WW 2 and the surviving 97% of earths population proceeded to procreate at a rate made sustainable by technology. When tech fails to solve the problems it promulgated the population crisis will self correct.

Humans have already created the means to self annihilation.

It is strictly a matter of time and some here actually think that worrying about it is productive.


mike r

20 million, phshaw. We (humanity) voluntarily eliminated two or three times that 1938 through 1950.

We will be talking numbers in the billions, probably in as short a time period.

When I was in high school in 1967, I remember my History teacher talking about Malthus, and the Malthusian Theory.
This guy lived 200 years ago.

He said that human population would increase, and increase, until it reached the breaking point. At that time, there would be a massive kill off, due to either war, or plague, or starvation. Millions, or billions, would die.

Now my high school teacher laughed off Malthus, saying that we had modern medicine, and we had massive agriculture that this poor dumb bastard could not dream of 200 years ago.

But no, I think Malthus was right. We are going to hit the breaking point and there will be a massive die off.

That is why, I am not only opposed to illegal immigration to our country, I am opposed to ALL immigration. We have enough people right now.
Also I am in favor of abortion. If a woman does not want a baby and does not want to care for it, she should have an abortion. We have enough people right now.

It is easy to say, right now, that we have plenty of room in America and we welcome all comers. We could not get overpopulated. But we could, and if we keep up what we now are doing, we will overpopulate. And then, we will break.

Worrying about earth's population is about as useful as worrying about Yellowstone blowing up.

If the folks who are so concerned about the population would throw themselves off a bridge, we would be closer to solving the problem.

What arrogance. If you are not willing to make changes in how you consume resources or are not willing to be the first in line for the necessary execution then you dont really want to make a difference.

Amen brother.

Are you looking for a 'yes' or 'no' answer?

Watch an old 70s movie called 'Logans Run', where the only trees remaining are in a museum, and the people....

SK,
Malthus was wrong about one thing. He assumed a liner growth rate for technology, and a logarithmic growth in population. But about the time he made his prediction, the world changed to one with a logarithmic growth rate for technology, and in the developed world, a liner growth rate for population. Under this formula his crash will not happen.

Define "good".

A drastic reduction will soon inevitably follow. I'm defining your "maximum" as being over capacity for the general good of the earth's species, which it already is, but hasn't yet peaked to the point of the lemming (etc.) cycle

This will be good for most of the surviving species when it happens, maybe not so good for humans as a "civilization".

We will have achieved the Libs utopia - "Back to Nature".

Heck, the human race may even survive it, with luck.

The earth is currently producing more food than needed.

The intertwined problems are distribution, waste, and timely consumption on perishables.

Here in the Arctic, in this borough, whatever isn't killed or picked, is imported, mostly by air. Probably 40% of the food served in the school cafeteria to these deprived natives (seconds to anyone who wants them)- all free except to the taxpayer- goes into the dumpsters after serving.. Meat and sweets for most of them. Michelle O be damned! You can serve them, but you can't make them eat it.....

I guess they just aren't hungry enough.

The difference I want to make is that my country is capable of sustaining itself when others cannot. I don't want to rely on Mexico for vegetables and Brazil for beef.

I'm with Roger..A Neo-Malthusian. War, famine, pestilence, or a combination of the above. There WILL be a time when we hit capacity, and people will die off by the billions.
Overpopulation is the root of ALL evil. Dysgenics is a close second, and they go hand in hand.