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Couldn't disagree more. Our species evolved without any significant sources of carbohydrates in the diet. Animal protein and fat, and vegetable fiber is what our bodies are tuned to digest.

Not until the advent of agriculture, a blink of an eye in evolutionary terms, did carbohydrates start infiltrating our diet.

Generally, our health suffered, but the security provided by the ability to store food off-set the negatives of the poor quality of the carb based diets.

A 6 or 8,000 calorie diet based on carbs, and you are begging for problems. There have been examples of Olympic athletes developing pre-diabetss due to the "carb loading" advise they received from their dietitians.

If you need a bunch of carbs (I am regularly above 5,000 per day myself), look for high fat, low carb items to increase the calorie count quickly. Fat has a much higher energy density, and a much lower health risk.

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Dang Dutch! What are you doing that you need 5,000 cals?

I can't imagine eating that much. Are you eating nothing but pemmican?

https://journalofmountainhunting.com/2016/07/gaining-weight-right-way/

Worth a read.. Good luck to you

We've been doing some concrete construction and repairs on the farm, including replacing some valves inside the building we couldn't get equipment into. Digging 7' holes in clay takes energy. On top of that normal work, feeding, loading trucks. Everything seems to involve throwing 40 and 50 lb things around.

Plus, being 6'5", the furnace is a little bigger to begin with. Back in my hard hunting public land elk days, I would lose weight on 5,000 calories per day.

I wasn't promoting a diet based on carbs or even with carbs as the main source of calories, but if someone is training/laboring hard, carbs are the most efficient way to replace depleted glycogen stores and provide an immediate source of energy. It can be done with fats as well, but it's not as efficient. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Barry,

A couple years back I needed to bump up my weight a bit.

Wendy's triple burgers and Chipolte Burritos with double meat did the trick.

Personally, I'd avoid the shakes and such and stick with a balanced, just larger, diet. Read meat and rice will take a man a long way.

Swagger, that was a great article.

Whatever I'm eating, apparently.

This isn't an engineering problem; efficiency is not the object, staying healthy is. Flood the body with carbs, and the insulin spikes will lead to pre-diabetes in a large section of the population. Substantial quantities of carbs on a sustained basis leads to health problems. Substantial quantities of fat on a sustained basis do not (unless combined with carbs).

Sitting on one's arse all week long is also much more efficient than exercising, but a bit of exercise is far healthier....

Yes they do................and happen to be personal favorites.

Again, you're off in left field.... No recommendation to "flood the body with carbs". Efficiency does matter to someone who is trying to gain weight and avoid loosing it under hard physical conditions. It also matters in recovery. Quick recovery between multiple training sessions in a day (or after hard labor) makes a huge difference. Go read the link to the article that Jedi Swagger posted. Fats can't do it all, protein can't do it all, carbs can't do it all.

Discussing insulin, it's the most anabolic hormone in the body. You don't want excessive "spikes", but you want an insulin response if you're looking to gain weight. Providing enough carbs to trigger an insulin response which quickly (and efficiently) uses those carbs to replace depleted energy stores will allow for quicker recovery. You can attempt to do the same thing with fat, but it will take longer and if you're running on the edge of over-training your body won't be able to keep up.

1 cup raw whole cows milk
60 grams vanilla whey protein
1 banana
3 fresh raw farm eggs
1 tbsp flax seed
1 tspn cinnamon powder
3 tbsp peanut butter......................non, hydrogenated oil type, Skippy Natural is what I use

Blender the hell out of it, chunk in a few ice cubes if you want to cool it down a bit.

An old power lifting buddy gave me this shake recipe 20+ years ago, if I have one shake a day for a week along with some light weight training, walking on a treadmill and/or general farm labor I get spooled up and feel 20 years younger, the strength really comes back, warning, I do tend to get a little aggressive when I do this, mental sharpness and situational awareness is beyond instant, the weight you put on will be muscle.

Get on walfare and vote democrat

You're picking and choosing parts of the discussion, and arguing around the point. You can't go "all fat" on a diet if you wanted to. The point is, that the typical American diet already contains more carbs than is necessary for normal digestive functions, and more carbs than is healthy, as indicated by the increasing rates of pre-diabetes and type II diabetes.

All the talk about "recovery time" and efficiency is short term sports oriented dieticians babble. If you need 5,000 calories per day, and you proportionally increase carbs in the diet, you will be at a very high risk for type II diabetes. Period. End of story.

The whole carb thing in sports is essentially old science. Many, MANY, top athletes, Lindsay Vaughn for example, were unable to move beyond their performance plateaus until they moved away from a carb based diet.

You may think that short term recovery from exertion is important: try recovering from type II diabetes.

The big Sam's Club sized bags of Peanut M&Ms can be hell on a figure.

Bro, you ain't kidding...


Last year I basically quit drinking light beer and the belly grew.


But 500-1k calories a day from beer is still better than soda pop and whiskey....

Yes, I'm directing my comments to the specific situation of someone who it training/laboring hard and wants to gain weight or at least avoid loosing it. Yes, the typical American diet has more carbs than needed...and it's not relevant to the situation being discussed...the typical American is trying to loose weight, not keep/gain. Again, I'm not pushing a carb based diet, I am recommending the smart and scientific use of carbs (with protein) for a quicker recovery...the timing and implementation of which isn't dieticians babble but science.

Science? More like suppositions based on plausibility, and pretty soundly debunked in recent years. If we look back, the amount of horrible advice, based on pseudo science, from dieticians over the last 50 years is astounding. Starting with the "low cholesterol" advice from the American Heart Association in 1961.

Eat margarine, it's better than butter
Don't eat eggs, they are bad for you
don't eat nuts, they are high fat and bad for you
Eat a low-fat diet
Eat a low-cholesterol diet
Don't drink alcohol
The whole food pyramid thing (remember that group think garbage?)
Don't eat saturated fat

and on, and on, and on.

Using high levels of carbs as you suggest is a short term benefit with potentially devastating long term health consequences. Not much different from recommending steroids, in that way, really.

Yes, carbs can create weight gain easily....... the obesity epidemic is proof that if the nation increases it's carb intake by 30% as it has, there's going to be a lot of weight gain, with all the health problems associated with it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/21/opinion/when-the-government-tells-you-what-to-eat.html?_r=0