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My Sako was the last runs of 75 Varmints and they put stainless/fluted barrels on them. I shot it with 120 federal and 140 Remington and it shot around 1 inch. Could I reasonably expect it to shoot considerably less than that with handloads? I really like this rifle and caliber and want it to be as accurate as possible.

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Given what my friend's Low Wall and Model 7 do with my handloads, I'd be quite frustrated if I couldn't get a heavy barreled Sako well under an inch at 100 yards. I expect another careful handloader could do very well too.

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Well I always seem to be off the beaten path from everyone else.. however, a few guys have come to respect my 2 cents on a couple of subjects...
Even tho others have had accuracy with the 95 grain V Max.. It is about the only 6.5 bullet I haven't had any luck with...

you didn't state whether you were using your Sako for Varmints, big game or both...

I own three, 2 Rugers, and a Rem VLS...

in the two Rugers.. I load one with 140s with an MV of 2500 fps, with a 4 power scope on it.. for basically the same environment people usually use a 30/30 in..

the other Ruger is used as a short action 25/06 equivalent.. 25/06 owners really get their dandruff up when you state a short action 260 will equal their long action 25/06...

That rifle uses a lot of 100 grain bullets.... Ballistic Tips, 100 GR HP Sierras, and 100 grain SP Hornadys...before Nosler put it in their manual, I had worked up a load of 43.5 grains of IMR 4064. Large Rifle primer ( brand doesn't matter) and a 100 grain Bullet for an MV of 3350 fps out of a 22 inch barrel... the VLS Rem has a 26 inch barrel and that one clocks that same load at 3450 fps...I think Noslers recommendation was at 43 grains..

With a couple of bang/flops at 300 yds, with this combo... and with the scope set on 4 power, ( Leupolds), the recoil was low enough, that I didn't loose site picture, and watched the deer drop within the scope....

If you feel the need for 120s or 125s... I load 40 grains of RL 15, W 748, IMR 4064, IMR 4895, IMR 3031,Varget, Benchmark, BLC 2,...all have an MV about 2800 to 2900 fps...

H 414 is my choice if you desire a slower burn rate.. along with IMR 4350 getting honorable mention.. followed by H 4350...

The 260 is one of the most balanced cartridges out there in my book.. especially in a short action...

Yeah you can stretch a hair more out of a handloaded 6.5 x 55, or a little more out of a 6.5/06.. but it takes substantially more powder to have little gains..

Even tho guys talk always about the RL 19, RL 22, 4831, 7828 burn ranges in the 260.. I find the mid range powders do just as well, and better with the lighter bullets... with less powder and less recoil..

and for bullet weights under 100... Speers 90 grain TNT is my choice ANY day over the 95 grain V Max...and the 85 grain Sierra HP is also a good bullet... I don't dislike V Maxes.. in this caliber is the only one that the performance and accuracy hasn't been up to snuff compared to the V Maxes in other calibers...

For match bullets.. I have had great luck with the 107 Sierra in competition ( limited participation) out to 600 yds.. and out to a thousand, good luck with the Sierra 120s 140s and 142s...

Also same with the 140 AMAX...

I haven't had the opportunity to use the Lapua offerings and the Berger offerings... but they need no introduction to their quality and accuracy...

But if limited to one bullet choice for deer and one bullet choice for Elk, my choices would be the 100 grain Hornady SP and for Elk, the 125 partition.... if I was limited to one bullet for ALL hunting of non varmint game, the choice would be the 125 Nosler... it shoots well with any powder listed above...

and if my rifles turn in an accuracy of one inch groups at 100 yds... I am looking in the mirror and chewing me out for jerking the trigger... my 2 Rugers and my VLS are half inch shooters or better all day long.. and all three are factory barrels, except as soon as I got them they were taken to the smith and throated out to be able to accept 140 grainers and 160 grain Hornady RNs to magazine length...

I also worked the triggers.. but I did that myself..


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I plan on using it for mostly paper punching with the occasional deer hunt thrown in, not for varmint as I have lighter smaller rifles fo that purpose. I just really want to get the most I can accuracy wise out of this rifle, although most do, but I just believe that its more capable than most.

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Well, then the 100 grainers, or 107 and 108 Match bullets are great for the 300 yd mark...

For the 600 yrd mark, switch to the 120s and 123s...

For the 1000 yd mark, 139 thru 142s work great for those long distances...123s will work great in a pinch for 1000 yds, I am told.. no personal experience to verify, but enough experience not to doubt them...


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Seafire,
Any tips on using the shorter slugs? The 95vmax is shooting well but when I tired to match it up with a 100gr partition things did not go well, patterns over 3" at 100 using H4350. Im thinking of trying varget but the 4350 shoots just fine with the 95.

The 125 part, 129SST and 130 berger have all performed well enough Im almost ready to just stick with them for everything.


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Originally Posted by varmintsinc
Seafire,
Any tips on using the shorter slugs? The 95vmax is shooting well but when I tired to match it up with a 100gr partition things did not go well, patterns over 3" at 100 using H4350. Im thinking of trying varget but the 4350 shoots just fine with the 95.

The 125 part, 129SST and 130 berger have all performed well enough Im almost ready to just stick with them for everything.


For the lighter bullets, mid range powders work better for accuracy in all of my experiences.. Varget is one of them.. Benchmark is another.... I have found all of the ones listed above do quite well with the 100 grain and under bullets... My personal preference of all that I have tried has IMR 4064.. for the tightest groups..

the Nosler 100 grain partition is not the most accurate bullet to for tight groups... For accuracy and lack of meat damage, my recommendation and the 100 grainer I use is the Hornady 100 gr SP....

If you still want to use powder in the 4350 burn range.. the first couple I'd reach for is H 414/W 760.... or IMR 4350 with the lighter bullets...I have found them more accurate than H 4350..

But still in all my testings... the 95 grain v max still gives me larger sized groups than the other bullets...althought the 100 grain partition is equal to it..... I have some of the rare, 105 grain SMP partitions that are for the Euro Market that I managed to pick up at the Nosler Second's Store....from the stores Physical location... they are much more accurate than the regular 100 grain partition...

on the partitions tho, I have never been able to get very good accuracy, or what I call good accuracy out of the 6mm/ 85 grain Partition, or the 60 grain 22 cal partition either....

But hey, if the V Max is working for ya... smile and keep on truckin' with it...I tried like 600 of them when I first got my 260s.. and none of them did very well with it.....

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Thank you, Seafire, for sharing what is obviously some hard-earned (and well thought out) information and advice. Almost makes me wanna add a 260 to my bulging gun cabinet...

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Originally Posted by ttpoz
Thank you, Seafire, for sharing what is obviously some hard-earned (and well thought out) information and advice. Almost makes me wanna add a 260 to my bulging gun cabinet...

TTPoZ


Well TTP.. If you ever do, I think you will really enjoy it....

It sure seems to be my 'GoTo' caliber for about anything...


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