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#2019948 - 02/15/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 458Win]
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 Originally Posted By: 458Win
One nice advantage of the 35's is the ability to use 357 pistol bullets- either reloaded or from a cartridge adapter. I am setting up a stainless Ruger No 1 in 35 Whelen for just this purpose.


Wow:

A stainless Ruger #1 set up just to shoot pistol bullets from the 35 Whelen case.

You Sir, have earned a PhD. in Rifle-Loony with that.

My great and total admiration is yours.

I am humbled.

BMT


Edited by BMT (02/15/08)
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#2020023 - 02/15/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: BMT]
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I guess I do have to plead guilty but, in my defense, I also plan on using it with full power loads as well. The rifle is also one that my son has plans for as he also inherited a full dose of the rifle loony gene. He is a diehard 35 Whelen fan and calls the 9.3x62's "euro-trash"
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#2020081 - 02/15/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 458Win]
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Still and all,

I am humbled . . . . .

BMT
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#2020312 - 02/16/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: BMT]
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I tryed the pistol bullet thing but didn't like it as it is limiting. I do not want to be caught with a mag full of 150gr nosler IPSC bullets for grouse and scare up a bedded moose, deer, bear or 'billy. So i settled on 200gr hornaday SP knock any of the afore mentioned upside down at the ranges they wood be encountered

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#2020690 - 02/16/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 458Win]
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 Originally Posted By: 458Win
I guess I do have to plead guilty but, in my defense, I also plan on using it with full power loads as well. The rifle is also one that my son has plans for as he also inherited a full dose of the rifle loony gene. He is a diehard 35 Whelen fan and calls the 9.3x62's "euro-trash"


Phil,
"Euro-trash" indeed. I'm also a lover of 35's (358Win and 350RemMag currently) but I now really wonder whether the Whelen/Howe combination knew of the 9x63 when they decided to make their Nth American 375H&H substitute ... the 35Whelen.
Cheers...
Con

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#2021259 - 02/16/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: Con]
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9.3X62 Euro-trash!? What a croc! The only thing a 35 Whelen is good for is making into a 358STA! ;-)
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#2022048 - 02/16/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 458Win]
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Phil,

Next time you talk to Taj tell him that the .35 Whelen is merely a belated (and rather lightweight) American imitation of a time-proven European design, which is precisely why it didn't become a factory round for 3/4 of a century after the 9.3x62 was being chambered.
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#2022292 - 02/17/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: Mule Deer]
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Booyah! What he said!
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#2023326 - 02/17/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: stephenwhite]
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John, Since I am having my third 9.3x62 built I just told Taj I was having a 36 Whelen built. I also threatened to have the No 1 re-bored to 9.3.
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#2023357 - 02/17/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 458Win]
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Actually, I was just hoping for a report on his facial expression when you forwarded my message.
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#2023455 - 02/17/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: Mule Deer]
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I can't see a reason to do a .35 Whelen when you can do a 9.3x62. IF the twist was right and you had a lot of 280 grain bullets available for the Whelen, that would be another story. Even if you put in a heavy bullet twist, you still only have a couple of heavyweights to choose from. The 286-300's make the 9.3 more flexible. If you want to shoot 250-grain bullets it makes more sense to use a .338-06 IMO.

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#2023512 - 02/17/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: jstevens]
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Hmmmmm.... this post has me thinking about a Remmy pump gun in 9.3X62.
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#2024612 - 02/18/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: safariman]
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I have been thinking that way myself for a few months.
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#2024781 - 02/18/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: Mule Deer]
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CZ550 "American" chambers 9.3x62mm... now don't get me wrong cuz I wouldn't agree with the "Euro-trash" characterization (though it made me smile) but "American"??? C'mon. 338 Win Mag is American. .35 Whelen is American.

I just didn't get that when I saw it.

I think that I may have to scrounge up a little change and grab up a Springfield '03A3 action and build a Whelen.

Is 9.3x62 or Whelen ammo more readily available in Alaska? Seems to me one could get hurt throwing metrics around when asking for ammo at some backcountry supply store...
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#2024830 - 02/18/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: efw]
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Both the Whelen and the 9.3 "Euro-trash" rounds are avaliable in Anchorage and Fairbanks. I don't know about the SE or Kodiak but most of us rifle loonies stock up anyway when we find ammo and supplies.

A 35 Whelen on an 03 Spfld is classic.
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#2024839 - 02/18/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 458Win]
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I always wanted a Whelen until I got my first 9.3X62.

Now, every time I see a rifle I like, I always wonder what it would be like in a 9.3X62!

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#2026758 - 02/19/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: jstevens]
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For me personally, I'd want a 9.3x57.

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#2026856 - 02/19/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 340boy]
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The 35 Whelen is terrific but the best .35 caliber had to be the 35 Newton.
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#2027182 - 02/19/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: Rusty-Gunn]
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 Originally Posted By: Rusty-Gunn
For me personally, I'd want a 9.3x57.


Rusty-

You need to check out the hunting rifles section at the Sacro Inc web site!! They have Husqvarna '96s & '98s in 9.3x57 for a song ($200-$300)right now. They even have barreled actions. I've been going there and just looking at the pictures lately.

I know, I'm a little obsessive. But these things a beautiful!

The thing that lost me on that caliber was cost of dies and brass. If I were to buy one of those lovely hunting tools I'd do the '98 and have it rebored to 62mm, personally.

So many rifles, so little time... and money...
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#2028995 - 02/19/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: efw]
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EFWakeman... I've seen them in Shotgun New's magazine. Problem right now is my town only has one gun dealer, who charges an outragious amount. That low price will easily double by the time I have him get one.

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#2029759 - 02/20/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: 458Win]
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 Originally Posted By: 458Win
A 35 Whelen on an 03 Spfld is classic.


God Love you Phil.

BMT


Edited by BMT (02/20/08)
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#2029844 - 02/20/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: pinotguy]
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Thanks for sharing guys!
There are two Whelens in my safe; damnfine pig guns.

My buddy just bought the Remmy auto. Shot a hog last week with it 4 times. He's 53 and shoots it like a kid!

I'd like a 9.3, but it is SO easy to get casting components for the 35's and using oversize GC's is a pain. (Ever make 44 GC's work on a 416 or 35 GC's on a 338?).

The REAL classic 35 for me would be the 35 G & H! Anyone ever had the itch?
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#2030565 - 02/20/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: HawkI]
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The real classic .35 to me would be the .350 Rigby. Somehow I talked myself down though, and so only have a .35 Remington, two .358 Winchesters and a .358 Norma.
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#2030595 - 02/20/08 Re: 35 Whelen question for Phil Shoemaker [Re: Mule Deer]
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John, was just fondling an original pre-war 350 Rigby yesterday and they certainly define "classic" - but the best old Spfld custom sporters in 35 Whelen are not too far behind.
Covergent evolution ?
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