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Did a few days of elk hunting and passed on a big bull opening day cause I was too tired to climb up the mountain and kill him! Go figure. Unibuilding has its down-side  Hope the family appreciates the sacrifice!
This week I saw a nice 320 class bull but the bugger was literally 150 yards on the other side of a unit that closed down for the season... too funny. I ranged him at 452 yards, no wind, laying prone. Easy shot.
Our family land and cabin is located inside a limited license unit--very limited. Set on the front porch and watch the bulls walk by on the afternoon of opening day kinda' thing--can't touch 'em  But private land cow tags have been easy to come by most years when I want one. Luckily an open unit is about 200 yards from the front door.
BTW, Casey what do you like for an interior spray tip?
If you have 3/4 gallon per minute or better airless, use a .017. Smaller airless, a .015. But a .015 will work with either one too. Casey
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The Vari-X IIc went to click adjustments Are you sure about that? I have a VariX-IIc and it has friction adjustments, and I don't believe anything lower than a III got clicks until the change from Vari-X to VX.
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The Vari-X IIc went to click adjustments Are you sure about that? I have a VariX-IIc and it has friction adjustments, and I don't believe anything lower than a III got clicks until the change from Vari-X to VX. See?  I wouldn't be surprised if you have such a critter--Leupy was changing things frequently from the mid 90's/early 2000's But all the Vari-X IIc's I've seen have click adjustments ( I have one) Casey
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so now your passing on misinformation No, I distinguished models and features. I did not falsely report that the Vari-X II had 1/4 inch click adjustments as you did. The Leupold Vari-X II, in all factory variations, did not have 1/4 inch or MOA click adjustments. The Vari-X IIc went to click adjustments and smaller increments. From Leupold Answer Guide: What does the small "c" mean on the Vari-X IIc model? The "c" indicates a design change in the Vari-X II line of scopes. In 1984 Leupold changed the scope internal design to provide more windage and elevation adjustment travel. They don't mention going from 1/2 MOA-increment friction adjustments to 1/4 MOA click adjustments. That would be a pretty big change that they would be sure to report when given the chance. They didn't because no Leupold Vari-X II was factory produced with 1/4 MOA click adjustments, including the Vari-X IIc.
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From Leupold Answer Guide:
What are the improvements in VX-II over Vari-X II scopes?
VX-II scopes feature precise 1/4 MOA click adjustments and high performance Multicoat 4 lens coating. The old Vari-X II scopes offered neither of these features.
What was the difference between Vari-X II and Vari-X III?
All Vari-X III models had Multicoat 4 lens coating for enhanced light transmission (about 8 to 10% more than Vari-X II, which had lenses fully coated with magnesium fluoride). All Vari-X III models featured 1\4 minute of angle clicks in the windage and elevation adjustments. The Vari-X II models all used a reliable friction type adjustment. A range estimating feature was on selected models of the Vari-X III 1.75-6x32mm, 2.5-8x36mm, 3.5-10 and 4.5-14 (both 40mm and 50 mm) scopes. The Vari-X II scope, while being an older design, was superbly engineered and set the scope industry standard for ruggedness, reliability, and quality in rifle scopes. Both Vari-X II and III models shared the same high mechanical and optical performance standards, and the same close tolerances in manufacturing for precise operation. Both models were tested identically to meet the same rigid mechanical and optical specifications.
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It doesn't matter what tree we are pissin up all I know is I have the Vari XII and it is 1/2 inch friction. So I guess what ever I said is bull pucky then. I'm done pissin on this tree
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duckndawg, if you look back at your posts you said "and the Vari XIIc is 1/4 inch click adjustment" and "BUT now the VariXII ARE 1/4 inch click." That is what I reacted to. If you meant now the VX-II are 1/4 inch click, then you'ld be right. Hence, I was pointing out that you were getting your terminology mixed up. I'm not pissing up any tree, just trying to get people the correct information, as I'm sure you were. So, you weren't completely wrong because as you said that indeed the Vari-X II does have 1/2 MOA-increment friction adjustments. I'm just pointing out to you and alpinecrick that the Vari-X II, including the Vari-X IIc, never had 1/4 MOA click adjustments. Thanks for partaking in the campfire!
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This is what Leupold posted here a few months ago. Best explanation I've heard yet. IFLY4U,
This is a bit more than you asked for, but I thought I might cover a few other questions and misconceptions.
The Rifleman scopes are fully coated with a coating of magnesium fluoride on all lens glass surfaces providing 82% of the available light back to the shooters eye. The windage and elevation adjustments are a silent friction adjustment marked in 1/2" inch increments on the dial. The scopes offer a new Wide Duplex with the thin section opening being twice as open as the Standard Duplex. The scopes are matte finish with a new sleek ergonomic maintube design. No Custom Shop services are available on a Rifleman scope. The scopes are waterproof and are covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. (The Rifleman scope is basically the old Vari-X II in a new body).
The VX-I scopes are MultiCoat 4 on the exterior eyepiece lens and the objective lens and use an industry standard coating throughout, providing approximately 85% of the available light back to the shooters eye. The windage and elevation adjustments are a silent friction adjustment marked in 1/4" inch increments on the dial. The scopes offer a Standard Duplex reticle or a Wide Duplex reticle. The scopes are offered in black gloss or matte finish. The scopes are waterproof and covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. Custom Shop services are available. (The VX-I is an improvement over the Vari-X II in that it has the MultiCoat 4 external lenses, 1/4 moa friction adjustment as opposed to the 1/2 moa, fast focus diopter adjustment and the eye piece and objective are threaded for Alumina products
The VX-II scopes are MultiCoat 4 providing 92% of the available light back to the shooters eye. The windage and elevation adjustments are an audible click adjustment in 1/4" inch click increments on the dial. The scopes offer multiple reticle options. The scopes are offered in black gloss or matte finish and some models are available in silver finish. The scopes are waterproof and covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. Custom Shop services are available. (The VX-II line is basically the Vari-X III optics in the Vari-X II body).
The VX-III scopes use the new Matched Index lens system, providing 94% to 98% of the available light back to the shooters eye depending on the particular VX-III model. The windage and elevation adjustments are an audible click adjustment in 1/4" inch click increments on the dial and low profile adjustments are finger adjustable (no special tools required). The scopes offer multiple reticle options. The scopes are offered in black gloss or matte finish and some models are available in silver finish. Some models are available in a 30mm maintube. These selected hunting models, VX-III 1.75-6x32mm, 2.5-8x36mm, 3.5-10x40mm, 3.5-10x50mm, 4.5-14x40mm, and 4.5-14x50mm scopes provide a simple built-in range estimating feature that uses the Duplex reticle. The scopes are waterproof and covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. Custom Shop Services are available.
I hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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From Dan Loza at Leupold:
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Jackfish, the Vari-X IIc are 1/2 MOA friction and the VX-II are 1/4 min click adjustments.
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