24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,826
P
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
P
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,826
For a going away shot at that patch of yellow fur at 300 yards and a big bull, I'll take bigger, heavier, faster, and Partitions every time. A 375 isn't too big for that kind work. smile

Wayne

GB1

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,401
R
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,401
I have used a number of rifles on elk, the 270, 30-06, 300 Win mag, 338 Win mag. The last elk hunt I went on I used the load you are talking about a full power load using the 150 grain Hornady. Neither bullet exited and the second was unnecessary. I built my 35 Whelen for hunting in the Timber as shooting is fast and I might want the edge in penetration it gives. In moderately open country where you can get a good shot angle the 270 works fine but if I use mine aqain I will load 150 grain Partitions for the job and to make me feel better if I have to take it in the timber. I have yet to use the Whelen on elk and of all my rifles the 30-06 has killed the most elk and it is my favorite rifle for elk hunting.

Last edited by rickt300; 04/05/08.

Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,001
J
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,001
You can't use a 270 on elk.. Its not enough gun.. At least thats what some people try to tell me... However, the pre-64 270 in my closet may just disagree with those people. I think its taken somewhere between 20-30 Rosevelt elk out of WA state. However, everyone knows Rosevelts are just small easy to kill elk..... ;-)

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,219
A
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,219
Originally Posted by peepsight3006
For a going away shot at that patch of yellow fur at 300 yards and a big bull, I'll take bigger, heavier, faster, and Partitions every time. A 375 isn't too big for that kind work. smile

Wayne



We just kinda', sorta' had this discussion with Mule Deer on another thread........and he'll probably just throw down on us with the 200gr, 30 cal Partition grin

I've done the Texas Heart Shots with the 270 and 150gr Partition at longish range--successfully I might add. Indeed, that's my load for that worst case scenario. But if I wasn't prepared for that worst case scenario shot (and only on very rare occasion will I go for it), my 243W and 100gr Partitions has done very well on heavily quartering elk from 40 yards out to 300 yds.........


Casey


Casey

Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12
E
New Member
Offline
New Member
E
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12
Plenty of bullet weight and energy behind it. I killed my first elk with a 117 grain bullet from a .257 Bob!

IC B2

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,207
K
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
K
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,207
I don't shoot elk in the butt. But then again, I don't shoot antelope or deer in the butt, either.




Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,826
P
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
P
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,826
Dammit all folks, if J.B. "throws down on you with a 200 gr Partition" for those tough, going away timber shots on big bulls, when there isn't and won't be any other shot offered besides that yellow rump, maybe we ought to start paying attention to him.

Wayne

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 29,835
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 29,835
My wife uses a 270 on elk and goes with 130's. If one hears her shoot, get the knife out, because there is an elk down. We've only recovered one slug, and that one was a headon shot straight through the brisket. The bullet was in the rear surface of the liver.

If one can deliver it accurately, I'd be fine with 4 or 500 yds. The wife's longest reach was about 425, and the shortest was about 12 yards in a mahogany thicket.

Last edited by 1minute; 04/06/08.

1Minute
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,935
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,935
There will always be a difference in preference in size of cartridges for certain animals and I'm definately a supporter of use enough gun. Some have valid points for larger calibers while others imply because you can kill something with a small cartridge, you can hunt with it. IMO, the 270 on elk is not one of these. It not only has the horsepower but the bullet weight to take on elk handily. In fact, I've seen many instances of those claiming the fastest they've had an elk go down was with a 270, Craig Boddington being one of them. Now he did try to rationalize why that was with one point being the animal wasn't alerted, but it doesn't change the fact it was still his fastest. A recent Handloader article about the 7 x 57 Mauser had that author recount the same story with the 270 and elk. I've also seen it from quite a few other hunters. Bottom line, the 270 is a dandy of a cartridge that's been around for over 80 years simply because it works. With modern powders and bullets it's only gotten better.

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 687
M
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
M
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 687
Originally Posted by 82dodge
What do you feel is the max range I can use this load?


I feel the max range is how ever far you can keep all your shots in a 10" paper plate, while shooting from field positions.

Getting the bullet where it needs to go is 95% of the deal. That Hornady bullet can fail horribly on you (very doubtfull), but as long as it "fails" in the lungs of that Elk; your still going to be eating Elk steaks.

So the answer is: Go somewhere where you can shoot a LONG ways out, and find out.

Last edited by MarkG; 04/07/08.

"Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." Genesis 9:3
IC B3

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6
8
82dodge Offline OP
New Member
OP Offline
New Member
8
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6
Wow, thanks for all the great information! As a kid I had a suscription to Outdoor Life and Jack O'Connor had a monthly column (forgot what it was called). I used to cut out and save his articles; what an outdoor writer he was. He was probably, maybe still is, the greatest proponent of the 270. Back around 1982, shortly before we married, my wife asked my hunting partner what rifle she should get me for Christmas. Of course he told her to get a Model 70 in 270 caliber. BTW, this is the same hunting partner who drew a WY elk tag with me this year.

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,373
D
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
D
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,373
That load should work to 250 yards, maybe 300just fine.

If I had a 338 I liked I would take it instead.

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Originally Posted by Dancing Bear
That load should work to 250 yards, maybe 300just fine.


I gotta know, but what on earth are you talking about here?

Thx
Dober



"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,265
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,265
Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Originally Posted by Dancing Bear
That load should work to 250 yards, maybe 300just fine.


I gotta know, but what on earth are you talking about here?

Thx
Dober



Now that right there is funny... Dober, what was the range you took your last bull at with the 270? As I recall it was right at 500-ish, no?


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
496 to be prezact, one 130 TSX on the front right, it went back and exited the opposite hams and said volunteer pitched over on his nose.

Not quite a electrocution but darn close!

Dober


"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 671
O
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
O
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 671
hi all. hey dober, i have thought about using the very same 130 tsx of which you speak of. other than that 1 bull, what else positive or negative have you heard of the 130's?-keith


Clint Eastwood: "I have strong feelings about gun control. If there is a gun around I want to be controlling it."
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Lots of positives and no negs, I'll let you know that more than a few other bulls have bounced via 130's for me and my hunt buds.

Dober


"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 671
O
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
O
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 671
thanks dober. let me ask you this, have you noticed any appreciable difference in the killing potential of the tsx's with the other weights for the 270? i know they make a 130, 140, and 150 grainer. i know you would lose a little ballistic advantage, but i have always been taught to shoot the heaviest weight for your particular bullet. maybe with the tsx's that no longer hold's true?-keith


Clint Eastwood: "I have strong feelings about gun control. If there is a gun around I want to be controlling it."
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,265
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,265
Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
496 to be prezact, one 130 TSX on the front right, it went back and exited the opposite hams and said volunteer pitched over on his nose.

Not quite a electrocution but darn close!

Dober


Dang, I thought they'd bounce-off at 301 yards!


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,219
A
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,219
Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
496 to be prezact, one 130 TSX on the front right, it went back and exited the opposite hams and said volunteer pitched over on his nose.

Not quite a electrocution but darn close!

Dober


Dang, I thought they'd bounce-off at 301 yards!


They probably do--but it's the ricochet that kill's 'em laugh laugh laugh










Well...at least I thought it was funny........



Casey


Casey

Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
Page 2 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

583 members (1lessdog, 160user, 10gaugemag, 10Glocks, 1337Fungi, 1234, 63 invisible), 2,802 guests, and 1,171 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,341
Posts18,468,725
Members73,928
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.092s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8970 MB (Peak: 1.0529 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-25 20:08:49 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS