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Sam, have you done accuracy comparisons for the 3 bullets in this test? If i missed it i apologize. I also know that any given rifle may vary in accuracy and may show a preference for another bullet other than the one yours preferred.
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From the Sandbox,
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Sir Springer: Astute post  Speed kills; how much matters or at what level things change?..............who knows. But it at least SEEMS something funky is going on with these high speed, light slugs that HOLD TOGETHER,which seems crucial.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Sam: Nice test and thanks for that info.Don't understand how the Etip did not dig as deep as the Barnes(??!!)
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Hey Bob, This may be the answer from JB, Mule Deer. The E-Tip is actually designed to open wider than the TSX, for a little bigger hole and a little less penetration. So far it has done just that. I have seen very few recovered, whether with the 150 at 2800 in the .308, or the 180 at 2900-3100 in a .300 magnum. The internal damage seems to be somewhat more than with a TSX, though not as much as with a Partition or AccuBond.
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I am liking everything about the E-Tip- in theory anyway.
Rootin' hard for them to come out with an 8mm version pronto!!
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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SU:...........I like big frontal area.Might have to take you up on that suggestion and try some of those things....  Oh, man these are tough days for an old Partition/Bitterroot guy....all kinds of new stuff to try, but you don't want to abandon the girl that brung ya 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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A lot to do about an inch of penetration..About any monolithic bullet has "enough" penetration to make two holes most of the time in deer size game and most of the time on elk, if it does not then shoot the next heavier bullet...
I don't see that the tests tell you much other than most of the bullet manufacturers sure do make good bullets these days...
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Sam, I read your initial post but I just wanted to get you to clarifly something. I'm under the assumption that you had done load development with all three bullets and chrony'd each to be certain of equal velocities. Is this correct?
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What about guns?When do we get guns?
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That Etip sure looks good!
Since I am set on 140's NAB's in .277 and .284, all I can wish for is a 100-110 grain TTSX, and/pr Etip to come out in the .257 flavor shortly!
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Oh, man these are tough days for an old Partition/Bitterroot guy....:(
Bob, you are not THAT old! 
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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Jeff: No I'm not;but there ARE a lot of bullets to try.....you can go nuts trying them all.It can get time consuming.That's why I just reach for partitions so often.Nothing tricky in loading them,and they work well. But I do like the looks of the Etip............ 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Sam and/or bwinters- have the reduced velocity experiments been completed?
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Wttail - no not yet. I just rounded up the required phone books and just got back from vacation last night.
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The e-tip didn't seem to expand a whole lot wider than the ttsx
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About 6/100 of a inch wider and it surely has more frontal area because the gaps between petals are not as large.
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i'll take 6/100 less and inches more penetration, aint choice great
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If the Ballistic Tip was good the Accubond would have been excellent. Test seems to show the Ballistic Tip has been toughened appreciably.
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i would like to see such a test done w/ hornadys interlock rn in 35 cal
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