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Do any of you use this Deer call? I picked one of these up last night when I was out Christmas shopping. Just curious to know if any of you have used it, and if so, how do you like it?

Mark

It is my bread and butter and I think very highly of it. In my opinion,it is the best of the commercial offerings,in that it is flexible and allows a very broad spectrum of tones/notes.

Were I shopping for a call,I'd buy 10 of them,before I bought one of anything else. Mostly because I have tried everything else(grin)....................

Stick,

What types of "tones" do you find that most of the deer in your neighborhood respond too. I am only familiar with the typical grunt type of calls.

Does this call do that type of sound, or is it different all together?

I like a soft come hither mewing tone. I call different than most of my pards and I strive to avoid higher pitched notes,that in my mind,connotate a sense of peril.

So I call gently,in a sorta "me soooooo horny" way. That as opposed to "I'm getting my guts chewed outta me by Wolves" way.

There'd be a difference.................(grin)

Its too bad there is no way to get a wave file with examples of your range of tones. I was trying it out last night and was surprised at the varieties that I could produce, but I have no idea if I am even close to what it should sound like.

The thing I want to avoid is alerting Bambi to the fact that there is an armed man lurking in his vicinity with intentions of putting him in the freezer, rather than woo'ing him out of hiding.

Got any tips?

Mark

A long time ago they made one specifically for mule deer. At the time I ran the hunting/fishing department for Gart Bros. Sports. They gave me a K'mere Deer mule deer call to try out. It was basically a fawn distress call. It worked very well and would bring in more does than it would scare away. It did not bring bucks in unless they followed the does, which they did quite often. What it was really good for though is stopping a buck after you accidently bump him. Nearly every buck would stop for a few seconds and look back if you blew the call right after they took off. Unfortunately it eventually fell apart and I don't even know if they still make one for mule deer? Do they have a website?

Sky,

I haven't been able to locate a web site for them, but the K'mere Deer call is supposed to be for both Whitetail and Mule deer.

I think the best tip,is to just read conditions. Pay attention to sign,the wind and try to find a locale that is gonna steer critters your way.

I like a fairly stealthy setup,maybe not because absolute success hinges on it,but more for the fact that it boosts MY confidence. Sorta the same reason I don't try to call Sprigs in with a trumpet,while wearing a blaze orange suit. A guy makes his own luck.

My preference is to have my back against something to break up my outline and to allow a leisurely position to sway a buncha fidgeting about. I like to slip in,get set up and move in a methodical/slow manner while calling.

I like my ass on the ground and the rifle across my lap. That situation is comfortable for me and the rifle is easy to get into action,should something fast and furious be on the menu. It generally isn't,but if you can deal with the most difficult situation,anything lesser is a given. Plus with my back to heavy cover,I've purposely negated a Pear Harbor happening on my blindside.

My calling is far softer and in a different cadence,than my pards. I'm not intent on making the most decibles possible,nor the sharpest note. The softer/warmer tones are my focal point and the K'meer is the bestest at it IMHO. I bite the call pretty hard and actually sorta chew on it,to "break it in". The plastic lips become more malleable and with that,one can skew tones. With a bite and an upward flex of the call to boot,one can realize some good sounds. At least sounds I like to work with.

I bite on the call in varying degrees of pressure and sorta screw around with air volume and cypher what combo it takes to yield a sound I find pleasing. My usual regimen,is to start a cadence with fairly firm teeth pressure on the call and moderate wind power. At the end of a note,I tend to relax some of that pressure and increase air pressure,while flexing the call,to yield sort of a soft feathered finish. Impossible to relate in text,what the hell I'm trying to explain,but for sheer comedy I'll try.

I like to start with a longish soft note,that I liken to a "where are ya?":

"WAaaaaauhhh" Then wait a coupla seconds and repeat,while adding to it,with another seperated tone.

"WAaaaaauuuuhhh" "Waaauuhh" Then wait just a smidge and add even more to it.

"WAaaauuhhhh" "Waaauuhh" "WAaauHHhhhh" Then finish with a smallish finisher death nail.

"Waauuhhh"

All of it,in friendlied tones and sorta melting together,rather than jackhammered on top of each other.

I know IMMEDIATELY,the sounds I like and firmly believe in their merit. The key is to discover for yourself what fishes and what don't,then get it down as far as the ability to reliably repeat it. Much,if not all of calling,is confidence(my opinion). So I am tuned in and on full alert,with game face on.

As I prefer to call in heavy vegetation,binoculars are a must. I lay a cadence down,maybe repeat the whole series and then up go my glasses. I'm trying to look THROUGH the vegetation,to see him,before he sees/winds me. Killed lots of them as they were slipping in and I find much satisfacton in that. They will sometimes travel a trail right to you,as if on a leash and that ain't a bad thing either(grin).

The tones I prefer,are not condusive to calling in Does. I doubt I call 1 Doe in,to every 10 Bucks. Pards have ratios at direct opposite of that and I think it is the higher pitch of a more Fawn distress-like sound,that promotes the Does' interest. That ain't a right and a wrong,but is certainly something I've noticed. Some guys like to yard the Does in,during the peak of the Rut,so they tow Bucks in with them. That approach is of much merit IMHO,though I still stick to my guns and largely have abandoned those sounds.

I sent a tape to someone here(am thinking it was Len),on this very subject,so as to more aptly relate what the hell I'm trying to explain. If I recall correctly,he had much luck honking Bucks in and figured out an approach that worked well in short order.

I'm a grinder. Meaning in good country,with good sign,I'll grind a location out for an hour or better,hoping to coax something in. I believe patience will up the odds too. Lotsa guys call,wait a coupla minutes and move on. They wanna cover lotsa country. I'm more apt to want to set up less,but be more selective in location and to stay with it longer. I've killed some dandies that came slurking in,late in the game and that is a handsome reward for a little patience.

So now that I've really screwed you up,I'll leave you alone. Best advice I have,is to just get out and practice and see what sorta presentation works best for you.

Needless to say,calling is my favorite way to hunt Bucks..................

You were right, ..... more confused than ever. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I'll be trying it out this Sat. I will do my best to duplicate what I think you've tried to explain - as long as these whitetails speak "Sitka Blacktail" I should have some kind of response.

Thanks.

Stick,

Just sent you a PM.

Back atcha............

Doggone it, Stick, I have been lurking and wasn't going to comment on how good the K'meer Deer is. But fair enough, since you told me about it. I start with a very short high note and slide smoothly and pretty quick into as low a note as I can get, longer drawn out than the first high part. Sort of like a soft edged cat meow, with the "ow" part much lower and three or four times as long as the initial "me". I like soft and sexy (as if I know what's sexy to a buck) but I try to stay away from any sharp sound or that sounds hurt or alarmed. Yes, just try it on deer. That's how I have learned to call a lot of stuff, by trying it. Like Stick said, bending the call up at the end as you continue blowing the last portion of the sound gives it the deepest note, which I presume is a sultry invitation. My son just does the low notes without the high start, and it works just as well though he does call does sometimes. I haven't called a doe yet. In modest use over three seasons I've called four bucks that I have seen, sound and tracks indicate a few more I didn't see. Seems like I'm forgetting one or two more but I'm being conservative here and those four are vivid. All have been blacktail bucks in the rain jungles except for one pretty good muley in subalpine who busted me on a wind shift. One mature blacktail and some forks. They do come in a silent sneak. I saw only a piece of throat patch of one at about 40 yards in an absolute tangle. Never heard a sound. He didn't move a muscle for over five minutes, and I don't know how long he'd been there when I first saw him. Then my partner, who was within 20 yards of the buck, moved and the buck sneaked away. That was a bow hunt intended to have the shooter ambush the buck as it approached me and the sound source. Almost worked. I've no idea how a whitetail would respond. And I'm making this up to butter up Stick. Truth be told, it doesn't work on blacktails or muleys at all and we're just running up the stock price of K'meer calls. Len

Back to you again.

One more yarn: you won't call a buck for sure if you don't try. Exact sounds are seldom importnat and with mnost animal calling, anything evgen close willwork. Far more important is wind, set up, being hidden. Call and see what happens, and improve your next calling stand based on thaty. One moose taught me more in three evenings of calling him than all the tapes and books in the world. The first day I tried the k'meer call I got nothing the first stand at daylight, calling on the fresh snow trail of three or four deer. My second stand, near noon, I'm pretty sure a large footed deer approached me and left without me seeing him, in old growth forest and patchy snow on a bench in a huge canyon. My third stand in mid to late afternoon I kept burping the call sound, breaking the sound off, squeeking it, etc. and knew my technique was lousy. I hadn't mastered that fine instrument to orchestra performance level yet. After three minutes I thought I heard one step of a hoof in gravel (steep old growth set up with some rock slides).

After about 20 minutes I was so disgusted with my sound goofs that I bagged the calling, quit hunting and got out my lunch. Drank some water, burped, stepped aside to take a leak, and in general acted like an idiot. I was holding my binoculars in hand as I put things back in my daypack at about the 33 or 35 minute mark after first starting the call, when I noticed a deer's hind legs disappearing behind some brush as he crossed the steep open slot below me, where I'd expected to see a deer. He was just to the open side of where I'd heard that step in the gravel. I raised the glasses and focused through the brush on a mature, heavy bodied, swollen necked buck whose head and antlers were hidden. After a second's pause he stepped ahead across an opening about two feet wide and I saw heavy dark antlers with deep forks, only a 3x3 unless I missed something but taller than most of the stubby antlered bucks in that area. I grabbed rifle, ran to my right, glassed, called, wished.... Hiked several miles out, in the dark the last part. The next afternoon I went in the tame woods behind the house, called in a fork horn and killed him at about 33 yards.

Len,

Enjoyed your commentary. Apologize for my stuttering recollections,but I sometimes miss the connection of name/handle and things is hard for me to keep straight.

I concur on your advice,in the best way to catch fish,is simply by keeping your line in the water. My first love is hammering Bucks with a call....................

Good heavens, a hunting gizmo that isn't on the web.

So where can this wonder be bought?

K'Meer..................

Stick,
Thanks for the description.

I actually think I know what you mean <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />.

I have one and am now honking away....

Thanks for the link - $6.99 ???? Holy cow I wish I would have had this link before I bought mine. I paid $14.99 plus tax the other night at a local store. Oh well ........