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#2344363 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: castandblast]
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 Originally Posted By: castandblast
I've been liking this set-up for a couple decades now. No whitetails with it but lots of other, bigger critters.

Very nice. Gerbers are great knives. I have one (a two and three quarter inch drop point lock blade) that I bought in the early 1980s. Been carrying that knife every day since then, literally. Light as a feather, and super strong. It's got a zytel handle. Blade is surgical stainless steel. Holds a great edge, and I can put a new razor sharp edge on it with just a few strokes on a whetstone. Still works perfectly after all these years.
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#2344583 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: castandblast]
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This is a Case "XX Changer", that I carry in my hunting pack sometimes, in my BOB all the time. My wife bought this for me as a Christmas present our first year together, so I have had it about 15 years now.
All the blades hold a great edge, its easy to shapen, and its just plain tight as a tick.
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#2344597 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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I use three knives per deer usually. One 30 year old Western folder for gutting that also has a saw blade for the pelvis. The blade is large enough to open the sternum (ribcage)on our smaller whitetails.
At camp I use a larger knife w/gut hook for ripping the skin on the legs and a small knife for skinning out the deer/hog. Then for quartering I go back to the larger knife. Both those are Western knives with rubber, non-slip handles.
I wear gloves for gutting in the field so my hands are clean when the job is done. Then another pair for butchering. No contamination.

Takes longer to describe it than do it, unless there is a cape involved.

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#2344614 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: corporal cleg]
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Well I usually have a dozier but the son in law cleans and capes them all with an old double bladed Old Henry! Gotta luv it!

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#2344662 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: stumpy]
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I don't know about what is best in knives. I started with a buck 110 folding knife I have owned it since the 70's. It went back to Buck once as I was splitting camp wood with it and broke the lock, they replaced it at no charge. I like this knife because it keeps an edge, is easy to sharpen, and has a narrow blade which makes it easy to bone the meat off of the hams while the deer is hanging. I think 5 or so is the max I have done without sharpening it. My wife bought me a buck mini alpha hunter, I am trying that out these last three years as well, its OK so far for skinning.
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#2344702 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: Mannlicher]
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Nice set. I didn't know Case made those.
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#2344713 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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I can see maybe carrying two knifes for doing the job of completely dressing out a deer ... but I can't see carrying around one blade for gutting, one for skinning, one for the anus area, one for the loins, a saw for the bones, etc...

Just get one, maybe two good knives ... learn the anatomy of the deer, and use some care when doing the work ... you'll find how/where the joints are, and how they are 'built' ... you can cut the ligaments/tendons to separate the bones at the joints, and have no worries of getting bone fragments/chips in the meat, and you really won't have to worry about "contamination" either if you know where to make your cuts ...

Not condemning those who wish to use 'specialized' or 'separate' blades for just about every aspect of processing a deer ... just saying that IMHO it's wholly unnecessary if you just use a little knowledge and care when processing ...
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#2344725 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: jimmyp]
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 Originally Posted By: jimmypgeorgia
I don't know about what is best in knives. I started with a buck 110 folding knife I have owned it since the 70's. It went back to Buck once as I was splitting camp wood with it and broke the lock, they replaced it at no charge. I like this knife because it keeps an edge, is easy to sharpen, and has a narrow blade which makes it easy to bone the meat off of the hams while the deer is hanging. I think 5 or so is the max I have done without sharpening it. My wife bought me a buck mini alpha hunter, I am trying that out these last three years as well, its OK so far for skinning.
Buck makes a fix blade knife they claim is self-sharpening, i.e., never needs to be resharpened. Is that possible?
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#2344746 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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 Originally Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye
Buck makes a fix blade knife they claim is self-sharpening, i.e., never needs to be resharpened. Is that possible?


never heard of that, can't imagine how that could be possible unless it's some gimmicky sharpener in the sheath that gives a stroke across the blade as you place it in or draw it.

But I do like the Buck brand
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#2344786 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: northern_dave]
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I have a few Buck 110's that the custom shop made for me a few years back and I totlay forgot I had them till this thead, I just pulled them out and dam, there nice! I have one in stag with an ATS-34 blade that might find its way into a whitetail here soon.

Heck, I might even order another........... \:\)
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#2344790 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: passport]
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very cool.
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#2344858 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: northern_dave]
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passport,
Like everything else in the world, recently the price of the Buck Custom Shop knives just took a significant increase. IMHO one of the best buys around for a new Buck 110 is the Cabela's Guide Series with rosewood handles and S30V blade steel. I think Bass Pro has their own special run with ATS-34 and that would be a nice upgrade from the standard 110's 420HC steel. Not that 420HC can't get the job done, it certainly can. Especially so since Buck has Paul Bos do the heat treating of the steel. That brings out the best in performance of their blades and chosen steels.
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#2344895 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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 Originally Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye
Ok, but what about the neck? Do you take it with the spine or do you remove the meat and leave the spine. I ask because when I stew neck meat, it's with the bones, but I'm getting the impression that deer bones don't impart a good flavor to stews. Is that the case?


I used to cut the neck for grinding meat but a few years back I cut the neck meat off like a roast. Made for a large, flat hunk of meat that we seasoned, rolled and tied into a roast. came out of the crock pot real nice.
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#2345088 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: northern_dave]
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 Originally Posted By: northern_dave
 Originally Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye
Buck makes a fix blade knife they claim is self-sharpening, i.e., never needs to be resharpened. Is that possible?


never heard of that, can't imagine how that could be possible unless it's some gimmicky sharpener in the sheath that gives a stroke across the blade as you place it in or draw it.

But I do like the Buck brand



For a while Buck and Cabelas marketed a knife with some type of coating, I think it was some type of nitrade that was applied to one side of the blade. As the knife was used the uncoated side would wear away and leave a sharp edge on the coated side. I never saw one and only recalled the info from the product description.

I do like using two knives when backpacking, usually a short drop point for most of the chores but have gone to a longer blade on a boning knife when reducing them to just meat and horns.
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#2345183 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: castandblast]
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castandblasts's gerber pictured above is interesting. I have a similar knife, but only with the drop point blade (the one in the knife in the pic) and the saw. Mine does not, however, have the more rounded (what do you call that, anyway?) that would be much better for skinning. I wonder if I could add a blade from Gerber?

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#2345184 - 08/01/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: varmintsinc]
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 Originally Posted By: varmintsinc
For a while Buck and Cabelas marketed a knife with some type of coating, I think it was some type of nitrade that was applied to one side of the blade. As the knife was used the uncoated side would wear away and leave a sharp edge on the coated side. I never saw one and only recalled the info from the product description.
Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.
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#2346225 - 08/02/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: JRaw]
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 Originally Posted By: JRaw
castandblasts's gerber pictured above is interesting. I have a similar knife, but only with the drop point blade (the one in the knife in the pic) and the saw. Mine does not, however, have the more rounded (what do you call that, anyway?) that would be much better for skinning. I wonder if I could add a blade from Gerber?


They are out there used, sometimes with a guthook on the top. They haven't been made in a long time but I have seen them at knife shops once in a while. If I see one I'll grab it for you!

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#2347261 - 08/02/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: Grogel_Deluxe]
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Neck meat is actually great meat. Foy years, my kids and I would chunk up the neck meat to use for a New Year's Eve fondue party.....DELICIOUS!

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#2347420 - 08/02/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: northern_dave]
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I use a Benchmade EMT Emergency seat belt cutter as a hide cutter from sex organs to top of breast bone as to also cut through the stomach muscles up to the breast bone. Used this rig for 6 yrs and never cut into any abdominal cavity contents. Anus is reamed and sex organs removed with a fish filet knife then off to the Deer cooler.

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#2347474 - 08/02/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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I pretty much Buck knives for everything. Don't know why really other than I have about 10 of 'em. I use a Buck 110(i think) for general gutting duties and to make some cuts for skinning. I have several black handled, fixed blade of various size and stoutness for the skinning and butchering. No saw. The hip joints kind of pop out when you get the knife into them. The leg joints can be done with a knife too. Just score the skin/ligaments around them and give them a quick hard pop and they generally break right off.

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#2348418 - 08/03/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: tzone]
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I hope to bloody this one

This knife is a Drop Point #7+
The blade is 5/32 thick
The handle is Maroon Linen Micarta
Blade length is 3": Overall length 7"
Steel used - S30V
Black Kydex "cross draw" sheath with belt loop.






Edited by SAKO75 (08/03/08)
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#2348536 - 08/03/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: corporal cleg]
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TRH,

Both of those knives are well up to the task of dressing out a whitetail; my preference would be the first one as the antler handle looks as if it would offer a better grip when wet with blood and it also has a more positive finger guard.

Whether you need a small saw for the field or not depends on whether you intend to open the chest cavity fully or leave it closed until you get home. The main advantage of leaving it closed is that it reduces contamination as you extract the carcass.

If you intend to open it in the field, I would recommend buying a small T handled saw such as the Gerber E-Z Saw...It does the job with the minimum of fuss and no matter how good the quality of your blade steel, splitting rib cages is a bit brutal on the knife...

There is a lot to be said for using a cheap and cheerful knife for deer work save wrecking or loosing your quality one..

I like a Frosts Clipper with SS trilaminated blade



They are soft enough to sharpen easily in the field and at around $15 its no great loss if you loose it...The handle and sheath are synthetic so are easy to keep clean and sterilize from time to time...

As for butchering afterwards, I would recommend you get two specialist butchers knives; a 6" boner and a 10" or 12" Steak knife. I use plastic handled Victronox (sp?) which are cheap but good quality and the sort you would find in a meat packing establishment. You will also need a steel to sharpen these, and possibly a proper butchers saw..I like the ones with a 12" or 15" blade...This will come in handy if you decide to be a bit more adventurous with the cuts you decide to remove from the carcass, some of which are "bone in"..

Finally, I suggest you get a good DVD on butchering as it makes life much easier..I recommend "White-tailed deer processing" from
Gamebutcher

I 've bought a couple of DVD's from him and he really is a nice gent to deal with, and who runs a family based deer cutting operation.. The DVD's are very good, and are aimed at the novice butcher who is only dealing with a couple of carcasses a year at home..

This guy also sells the knives and steels, but I already bought mine locally so I can't comment what they are like...

Regards,

Pete


Edited by Pete E (08/03/08)
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#2348557 - 08/03/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: Pete E]
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I've used all kinds, but I prefer a small (2") blade for severing the esophagus/windpipe and a larger (4") blade for the rest. I usually have a gerber or kershaw since they are easy to replace and the steel if at least fair enough for a couple deer at a time. Hogs require a really good steel and I've dulled blade just having them laying near a hog.
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#2348607 - 08/03/08 Re: What knife/knives are best for dressing out a whitetail deer? [Re: prostrate8]
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I ussually carry 2 knives with me, but only use one of them. The second one I use is for skinning an butchering but I let it tag along anyways.

I stopped cutting the windpipe a few years ago, Seems alot easier to me, to reach up inside it and just give it a yank.

For sharpening I like freehand on a large stone, and then use the back of a 3" leather belt. Bout the only way I have found to get these Marbles as sharp as they can get.

This one will be what I'm using from now on. Marbles Sport 99


heres ther other Marbles. Its a lil big but I like the steel and for skinning, making breakfast an what not its perfect


A rapala fillet knife seems to find its way onto the table when were butchering as well

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