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Pandering,.......?

NAWwwwwwww,.....

Politics,.......Gag,.....retch,....dry heave,....brrrrrr

Link: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_10308908

Obama campaign will invest in Latino outreach
By Brandi Grissom
MediaNews Group

Article Last Updated: 08/26/2008 05:42:56 PM MDT


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Richardson: Latino vote crucialU.S. Sen. Barack Obama plans to invest $20 million to reach out to Hispanic voters across the nation, a Democratic official said Tuesday.

"Certainly Hispanics hold the key to winning the White House, so we are very committed to that," said Eliseo Roques, vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee's Hispanic Caucus.

In a press conference following a luncheon honoring Latino leaders and former Denver Mayor Federico Pe�a, party leaders worked to dispel talk of division in the party and to reassure Latino voters that Obama cares about their communities.

"We know we have a task between now and November to get out there and convince people to vote," said U.S. Rep. Xavier Becerra, D-Calif.

Pe�a said with that Obama plans to invest people, time and money in Latino communities to ensure they connect with him.

Geocanda Arguello-Kline, president of the Nevada culinary union, said Obama understands the challenges workers and immigrants face.

"Obama is leading us to change this country," she said.

But Blanche Darley, an El Paso delegate who on Tuesday marched in support of U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton and wore a blue shirt emblazoned with the New York senator's name, said it's too late for Obama to win her over.

Obama, she said, should have implemented a strategy to show voters like her that he cares about Latinos a long time ago.

"It's a little too late to win Hispanic voters that have already been distracted elsewhere," she said. "They should have done it during the primary."

Home on the range,.......

Hardly romantic,

Link: http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_10308696

5 found shot to death on Chihuahua ranch
By Daniel Borunda / El Paso Times
Article Launched: 08/26/2008 04:57:00 PM MDT


EL PASO - Five men were found shot to death Tuesday in a ranch in the eastern part of the state of Chihuahua, state police said.
The bodies were found at the "Cinco Hermanos" (Five Brothers) ranch located on the road between the towns of Ojinaga and Aldama.

Chihuahua state police identified the slain as Manuel Arzate Contreras, 52; Ignacio Arzate Contreras, 67; Cain Severo Jurado Olivas, 47; Jesus Raul Salgueiro Dominguez, 18, and Jesus Roberto Franco, 19. All were residents of Aldama.

Investigators found 50 casings, including those used by AK-47 rifles. A vehicle, believed to have been used by the shooters, was found on a dirt road.

If I clone my old pickup,.....will the clone be like a new truck,.....or born with all those miles on it,.......

This,from FEMA, is probably a lead pipe cinch....

We'll probably all recall a recent Texas DOT rig haulin' smoke.

GTC


Link: http://hstoday.us/content/view/4882/128/

FEMA �Cloned� Vehicle Alert Cites HSToday Investigation
by Anthony L. Kimery
Tuesday, 26 August 2008

'The potential exists for the use of cloned vehicles for terrorist activities'
The �Infogram� issued last Thursday by FEMA�s Emergency Management and Response-Information Sharing and Analysis Center (EMR-ISAC) warning about �the potential �for the use of cloned vehicles for terrorist activities ranging from surveillance and preplanning to an actual ... attack," singled out HSToday�s exclusive May cover story investigation into the use of fake, official-looking vehicles for criminal purposes.

Written by veteran Emmy and Peabody award-winning investigative journalist W. Scott Malone, with additional reporting by HSToday�s own award-winning Online Editor and Senior Reporter Anthony Kimery, the report, �Beware the Clones,� exclusively highlighted mounting concerns on the part of law enforcement and intelligence officials over the use of �cloned� vehicles � vehicles that are disguised to look like both commercial and federal vehicles, including US Border Patrol, National Security Agency, and FEMA vehicles � to conceal criminal activity, the most common of which is the transportation of drugs and illegal aliens across the Mexican border into the US.


Under the heading, �Cloned Vehicle Threat Increases,� the EMR-ISAC �Infogram� states �research by the Emergency Management and Response�Information Sharing and Analysis Center substantiates that the term �cloned vehicle� pertains to cosmetically altered vehicles made to look like legitimate emergency or commercial vehicles, but also applies to vehicles with fictitious titles and vehicle identification numbers."

Continuing, the EMR-ISAC alert notes that the "investigation by Homeland Security Today disclosed that �cloned vehicles� have been reported from Oregon to Georgia. Completely cloned 18-wheelers disguised as Wal-Mart trucks have been impounded in Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Arkansas, and Missouri, according to law enforcement officials.�

Continuing, the EMR-ISAC "Infogram" states that �within the United States, the potential exists for the use of cloned vehicles for terrorist activities ranging from surveillance and preplanning to an actual terrorist attack as has occurred in other nations.

�Because of this viable threat, the EMR-ISAC recommends that Emergency Services Sector (ESS) personnel develop the ability to detect �cloned vehicles� and distinguish them from genuine emergency and commercial vehicles.�

To assist ESS departments and agencies, the EMR-ISAC offered the following additional suggestions to prepare emergency responders for this increased threat:

Learn about the technology and resources to develop �cloned vehicles;"
Familiarize with the actual methods and materials used to create �cloned vehicles;"
Pay attention to delivery, service, and utility vehicles while performing duties;
Know how to verify the official markings on government and military vehicles;
Be able to locate concealed illicit items, particularly those harmful to responders and citizens;
Promote the creation of laws or statues that criminalize the development and use of �cloned vehicles.�
According to an August 22 statement by the FEMA Region VIII Joint Information Center in Denver, Colorado, an Associated Press report which cited the EMR-ISAC alert �unfortunately � suggest[ed that there was] �a connection to the Democratic and Republican National Conventions that does not exist.�

An AP report stated �security officials around the cities hosting this year's political conventions are being told to watch out for phony emergency vehicles,� which the EMR-ISAC alert did not say.

But in it�s statement, the FEMA Region VIII Joint Information Center stressed, �to be clear, there is no evidence at any level of the federal government that this type of activity is a current and viable threat to either convention.�

The statement explained that �these bulletins are periodic refresher notices designed to inform and educate emergency responders about potential threats and emergency management issues. Similar advisories were issued prior to the 2004 political conventions.

The statement reiterated, however, that �emergency managers are encouraged during all national-level events to maintain a heightened awareness for any contingency. Consistent training, education and information on all potential threats, including the ability to detect �cloned vehicles� and distinguish them from genuine emergency and commercial vehicles, demonstrates sound emergency management practice.�

Indeed, there are continuing problems with cloned vehicles being used in the commission of criminal enterprises, as HSToday.us reported on August 16.

The problem of cloned vehicles was brought to the forefront of attention to law enforcement and counterterror authorities with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) report, "The Road Map to Cloned Vehicles.�

This report stated that �the use of government vehicles with official markings, especially those associated with friendly military, government and public safety entities, could be a means of delivering a vehicle-borne explosive device to a target site. This method could allow terrorists to bypass established security protocols and strike hardened, high-value targets.�

The National Insurance Crime Bureau also recently issued a brochure explaining the danger of the cloned vehicle problem.

A Clear cut conflict of ideologies,.....

Hoping that the differances remain clear-cut, here.



Link: http://www.americanpatrol.com/


Vive la Diff�rence!
Parties Diverge on Illegal Immigration Issue

American Patrol Commentary -- August 27

The Denver Post reported that all four speakers at a Democrat panel discussion on immigration, including Rep. Zoe Lofgren, Chairwoman of the House Subcommittee on Immigration (etc.), said immigration law must be reformed before the border with Mexico can be secured. "The enforcement-only strategy of the current administration is not working, they said."
At a Republican National Committee meeting on the platform "sparks flew when delegates got into a debate over illegal immigration."
According to FoxNews.com, delegates from North Carolina wanted to include opposition to "comprehensive immigration reform." This was opposed by Bud McFarlane, a man with a history of mental instability.
The issue of the RNC�s comprehensive reform language is yet to be settled, but on one point -- border security -- there is a clear difference between Republicans and Democrats. Democrats want amnesty first and Republicans want border security first. Moreover, Bush�s failure to implement the Secure Fence Act of 2006 gives McCain an opportunity to distance himself from both the Democrats and an unpopular President.
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One lone Sherrif battles hopeless odds,with no support from outside world, or general populace.

Bwa-ha,....yeah, right

Go, Joe

GTC

Link: http://ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=945823

Sheriff does immigration operation in East Valley
August 27th, 2008 @ 12:00pm
by KTAR Newsroom

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office served search warrants in the East Valley Wednesday morning as part of an investigation into alleged violations of Arizona's employers' sanctions law.

The search warrants were served at separate business locations of Artistic Plant Management, a landscaping firm.

Deputies detained about three-dozen people. They included suspected illegal immigrants, people wanted on arrest warrants and people suspected of criminal fraud.

The employers' sanctions law, which took effect early this year, provides stiff penalties for people and companies that knowingly employ illegal immigrants.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas scheduled a news conference at 3:30 p.m. Wednesday to provide more details of the operation.

This seems whacky,.....is my Confederate $ gonna' be good ?

Comic Relief,....or dark visionary,.......?

Either way, this ole' boy puts his $ where his Mouth is.

GTC

Link: http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/421229.html

Davis warns of a new civil war with Southern states
Candidate for 26th Congressionial district sees possibility of secession due to Mexican immigrants
By Jerry Zremski NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF
Updated: 08/25/08 12:06 PM

Jack Davis faces criticism for comments on immigration.
WASHINGTON � Congressional candidate Jack Davis, in a speech earlier this year, warned that increasing immigration from Mexico could lead to a new civil war between northern states and Mexican-influenced Southern states that may want to secede from the United States.

�In the latter part of this century or the next, Mexicans will be a majority in many of the states and could therefore take control of the state government using the democratic process,� Davis said in the speech. �They could then secede from the United States, and then we might have another civil war.�

A supporter of one of Davis� rivals for the Democratic nomination in the 26th district, Jon Powers, posted the video to YouTube. The Powers campaign alerted The Buffalo News to the Davis video.

The YouTube video is labeled as a speech Davis gave at the Center for Inquiry in Amherst on Feb. 1, but a center press release indicates that he spoke there on March 19.

No matter when he spoke, Davis could not have made his point of view on Mexican immigrants any clearer.

�They have an allegiance to Mexico, where they were taught the U. S. fought an unjust war with Mexico and took this territory,� Davis said. �They believe the territory of these states belongs to Mexico.�

Davis did not name specific states that might be prone to succession.

But he appeared to be referring to Texas � which seceded from Mexico, briefly became an independent republic and then joined the United States � and the territories Mexico lost as a result of the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico and much of Colorado were all once Mexican territory, only to become U. S. states after the war.

Asked this week about his speech, Davis said he no longer believed Southern states would be prone to leaving the union in order to assert Mexican control over what is now U. S. territory.

�I think they�ll do it without a civil war,� he said. �They�ll take control of the state governments and start voting themselves anything they want.�

The video of the Davis speech was posted to YouTube on April 14 by Robert Harding, a blogger at the Albany Project blog who supports Powers. He said the video was provided to him by someone who attended the speech.



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Powers� campaign manager, John Gerken, said the speech was very telling.

�I think Jack Davis� rant says it all: He thinks we are going to go to war with California and Arizona,� Gerken said. �This is probably why his handlers won�t let him debate and hide him from the press.�

Alice Kryzan, an environmental lawyer who is also running for the Democratic nomination to face Republican Christopher Lee in the race to replace retiring Rep. Thomas

M. Reynolds, R-Clarence, was equally critical of Davis.

�Many of these comments are wrong and offensive,� she said. �We should address our illegal problems thoughtfully, not by demonizing anyone.�

Meanwhile, a top official at the National Council of La Raza, the nation�s leading Hispanic organization, termed Davis� comments �extremely offensive.�

�He�s feeding an environment of intolerance that doesn�t distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants,� said Clarissa Martinez, director of immigration and national campaigns for the organization. �He�s presenting our whole community as invaders � people who want to take over the country.�

In fact, Davis in his speech, said: �Our country has been invaded, occupied and settled by 10 million illegal aliens.�

Davis issued a statement Friday, trying to clarify his earlier comments.

�My remarks at the Center were designed to bring urgency to the conversation,� he said in the statement. �I believe passionately in protecting our homeland and securing our borders. If my language was hyperbolic, the danger it described certainly is not.�

In the Thursday interview where he discussed the speech, Davis said he didn�t recall everything he had said in the speech.

But among the topics he discussed in the speech was his solution for the illegal immigration problem.

�I think building a double wall long the southern border is the least expensive long-term solution to maintaining the heritage of our fathers,� Davis said in the speech on YouTube.

Davis, a 75-year-old Akron industrialist who has vowed to spend $3 million of his own money on the congressional race, plans to stay on the ballot in November � on his new �Save Jobs and Farms Party� line � even if he loses the Democratic primary.

Many Western New York farmers rely on migrant workers from Mexico to bring in the crops.

After hearing quotes from Davis� speech, John Lincoln, the president of the New York Farm Bureau, said: �The farmers overall would be really concerned about his statement.�

Told what Lincoln said, Davis replied: �He�s not a regular farmer. He�s one of these big guys . . . I�d call him a multinational farmer.�

Lincoln, 70, is a dairy farmer with 200 head of cattle in Bloomfield, a village of 1,258 in Ontario County, southeast of Rochester. Asked if he had ever met Lincoln, Davis said he had not.



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Congressional candidate Jack Davis responded to questions about his speech with this comment on Friday:

"We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. The Bush immigration policy is a disaster and the American taxpayers are on the hook for it. "In my view, American immigration policy must:

"Secure our borders.

"Reduce the number of illegal aliens in our country.

"Require the people already here to learn English, pay taxes and get in line for citizenship at their own expense.

"It's not practical to deport millions of people, but we can't reward or encourage further illegal entry into the United States with special rights or privileges.

"Corporate greed creates the demand for cheap labor which draws immigrants from across our borders and hurts law-abiding American workers. Corporate lobbyists and PAC dollars have too much power in Washington, and they have silenced meaningful reforms that would protect American workers. "Well, their money doesn't impress me and I won't take a dime. There is a safe and sane solution that puts employers and labor on the same side of the law, and we must work together to find it, without undue influence from special interests.

"My remarks at the Center were designed to bring urgency to the conversation. I believe passionately in protecting our homeland and securing our borders. If my language was hyperbolic, the danger it described certainly is not.

"Our broken borders, unsecured ports, and lack of effective inspection and enforcement, jeopardize the prosperity and security of Americans every single day. Until we fix it, we are vulnerable to another attack like we had in 2001 or worse, and American workers and their families will continue to suffer."

jzremskibuffnews.com .

Interesting,.......a good look at how a gradual infiltration promotes symbiosis.

I can sympathise with what the "townspeople" are saying,.....

but it sure looks like they are going to bite the weenie, on this one,..........

Ugh . ( kicks a horse turd ),.....like, ...Oscar Mayer, Tyson, ....uhhhh

oh well, some days are not that bright.

Link: http://www.nydailynews.com/latino/2...raid_to_face_next_immigratio.html?page=0

Hispanics afraid to face next immigration raid
The Associated Press

Wednesday, August 27th 2008, 4:00 AM

(Page 1 of 2)

PERRY, Iowa � Immigration agents had barely left Postville when word hit Perry, about 200 miles to the southwest, that another raid was coming.

The rumor, which turned out to be false, spread like prairie fire through this central Iowa city's Hispanic community, reflecting a new reality for many small U.S. towns that can't be shaken.

In places like Perry, where Hispanics now make up at least a quarter of the population, residents are left wondering, "Are we next?"

"We are more vulnerable now," asked Angelica Cardenas, 28, who works in Perry's school system. "There is always fear of something like this, but with these raids, we know now it's real."

The government's shift to high-profile immigration raids � 389 people were arrested at Postville's Agriprocessors Inc. on May 12, and 350 were rounded up at Howard Industries Inc. of Laurel, Mississippi, on Monday � has instilled fear in towns across the country.

"These raids have really highlighted the difficulties towns face in this situation," said Ana-Maria Garcia Wahl, an associate professor of sociology at Wake Forest University who studies immigration issues in the Midwest and South.

"I'm not sure all of these towns have an ability to cope and provide the crisis intervention."

Postville has lost more than a quarter of its pre-raid population of 2,300. Besides the detained workers, scores more fled or went into hiding.

People were pushed out of jobs and homes. Children were separated from parents. Businesses verged toward collapse.

Like Postville, Perry has been subjected to a sweeping demographic shift brought on by a meatpacking plant on the outskirts of town.

The Hispanic community in the city, which has about 7,600 residents, has grown gradually over the past 20 years, officials said.

"It's a different community than when I was growing up, for sure," said Brett Roberts, who works at an insurance company in Perry. "That's not a bad thing, but it's a fact."

The city's relatively newfound diversity can be seen on the streets, where the six-block downtown is home to a half-dozen Hispanic businesses, including a popular Mexican restaurant and a bakery a few doors down.

The plant that attracted most of the Hispanics sits a little more than a mile away. It was built by Oscar Mayer and has been around for decades, though its ownership has switched hands several times.

Tyson Foods Inc., which took over the plant in 2001, uses it to produce pork products. With about 1,200 workers, the plant is Perry's largest employer.

When Mayor Viivi Shirley watched TV news reports of the Postville raid, one of her first thoughts was, "Thank God it wasn't Perry."

Soon after hearing about the raid at Agriprocessors, where more than half the employees were found to be illegal immigrants, Shirley sought out the Tyson plant's manager to ask about the legal status of its workers.

She left that meeting satisfied that Tyson's house was in order, but she was still unnerved by the thought of a raid in her town.

Shirley said she's proud of the way newer Hispanic residents have melded with Perry's older, mostly Caucasian residents and fears a raid would undo years of progress.

For their part, Tyson officials say they are confident their workers are in the country legally. Applicants must go through a federally backed immigration verification system, Tyson spokesman Gary Mickelson said.

Shirley and others in town are not naive.

Police Chief Dan Brickner is matter of fact when asked if there are illegal residents in the city: "Yeah. I'm sure there are."

After seeing two large-scale raids in Iowa in a little more than a year � Agriprocessors and a meatpacker in Marshalltown � Perry officials recently made preparations for handling one in their town.

School Superintendent Randy J. McCaulley said the school system has an emergency plan in place for an immigration raid, just as it does for other possible calamities, such as a tornado, fire or intruder.

Parents have received a note seeking clarification of their emergency contact information and reassuring them that students will be kept safe in the event of raid.

Still, fear lingers among Perry's Hispanic community.

"You can see that people are more scared in general," said Rosa Gonzalez of the advocacy group Hispanics United for Perry. "Some of them, they don't even tell you directly but people don't go outside like they used to and things like that."

Wendy Goodale, director of Perry's Chamber of Commerce, said Hispanics have helped revive the community, giving local businesses a boost while many rural areas have struggled through tough economic times.

She thinks it could be a crippling blow to Perry if something pushed the Hispanic population out of town.

"It's such a huge chunk of our community," Goodale said. "It would be a huge hit to our community, culturally, economically, our businesses, our people � a huge hit."

Sweet Home Alabama,

Jeff Sessions,....a good man

Link: http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article/20080827/NEWS/808260268/1016/NEWS%26title=Sessions_speaks_to_crowd_at_Albertville_immigration_forum

Sessions speaks to crowd at Albertville immigration forum

By KERRY YENCER
Times Correspondent


Published: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 9:06 p.m.
ALBERTVILLE � An immigration forum inside the City Hall chambers here Tuesday drew an overflow crowd to hear two-term U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions.



Sessions, R-Ala., a leading advocate for improving border security and restoring lawfulness to the immigration system, shared his thoughts on steps the United States should take to secure its borders, reduce illegal immigration and create an immigration system that serves the long-term national interest.

Most of the 125 to 150 in attendance were white senior citizens, including some who vented their frustrations at the growing immigration problem in Marshall County.

Sessions addressed the �frustration because of us in Washington. We haven�t made the system work,� he said.

He pointed to a piece of legislation that wouldn�t work because it was �written by special interest,� a compromise put together with political interests at the forefront.

Passage would reduce illegal immigration by 15 percent, Sessions said.

�We (the federal government) haven�t given clear enough authority to (local) law enforcement,� Sessions said, referring to arrests of illegal immigrants by local officers, who then turn them over to federal authorities.

According to Sessions, 1.1 million arrests of illegal immigrants were reported in 2006.

Legislation that has been enacted, Sessions said, has resulted in a 20 percent drop in arrests in the last calendar year.

�People (illegal immigrants) are beginning to get the message,� he said.

He also cited figures from the Center for Immigration Studies that show the number of illegal immigrants living in the country has dropped 11 percent.

Sessions was asked if there was any thought to establishing an immigration office in Albertville.

�It�s something to think about,� he said. �I�ve been a proponent of training local officers, but ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) is nervous about that.�

Sessions said there are 12,000 ICE officers and 600,000 local law enforcement personnel.

Albertville Police Chief Benny Womack, called on to address the local issue, said, �It�s frustrating. We are spinning our wheels.�

He said federal authorities discourage local law enforcement from the process. Marshall County Sheriff Scott Walls told Sessions he met with immigration officials.

�They started by saying they were going to talk us out of this,� Walls said, adding that funding also has been cut.

�We�re willing to do the job,� Walls said, �but we need the tools.�

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Not to burst your bubble, but this is a normal LE operation for an S.O. in a large Metro area or anywhere for that matter. A duty of an S.O. is to serve arrest warrants.

This goes on in other places in the country as well, it's probably much larger in a SW border area and in Maricopa Co. due to a higher amount of illegals.

Most agencies don't have the manpower and resources that Sheriff Joe has. I like to have his budget, i bet it's well over 150mil. Don't get me wrong, he's done a good job, but he's not hurting for manpower and money either.

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I am familiar with this area, it's got an increased illegal population, due to many factors such as chicken houses and other low paying jobs. This county has a growing Meth. issue, not due to the Mexicans, but due to "Bubba tweeker". This besides it's not a weathy county by any means, there's some money, but it's old money.

Good,....our resident Dean of "Sherrif Department's Operations" is back in the building,....and holding his seminar,......

Questions anybody ?

I think the only bubbles you've burst recently are the farts in your bathtub, Hunter. You should quit doing it with your teeth,....it promotes bad breath,...and methane's bad to inhale just on general principle.

GTC

GTC

Dammit, you owe me a monitor.................

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Why are you such a smartass?

I've worked in a hell of a lot more S.O's then you ever have. What has been your career? it wasn't LE, was it? So what do you know about it???

I didn't make any negative comments about your " Super Hero Joe", he's just able to do alot, of what he does due to his large budget, which provides the manpower and resources.

There's counties in this state with over 600 hundred square miles and there damn happy to have 3 or 4 deputies, on at night.

I think my experiences on the job, and college education in Criminal Justice, with an emphasis in Public Management, is alot more experience then yours, in the subject. Thanks for helping to pay for my degree, it was completed during my twenty year career in the US Army also.

Is it just me,....or is it exceptionally WIERD out tonight...?

I'm going to go toss wounded flies to my spider.

Glad the Chupas will be coming outta' molt soon.

Way more exciting and fun than repetitive sparring with BORING people.

Semper Coon-Azz,

see ya'll tomorrow,......

You've got the podium, Hunter,....go for it.

GTC

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Go feed your spider. You've never even worked in LE, nor a Sheriff's Dept. and don't have a clue what the mission or duties are.

Nor do you understand the difference that a large budget, allows you to have the manpower and resources, to do these additional duties, and still have the manpower and resources, to answer the calls for service, and serve the citizens.

You act like Ol'Joe is out there, serving the arrest warrants himself. I hate to tell you this, but he's a politician first and a lawman second, as 95% of Sheriff's are. There are some out there who work the road and make arrests, serve warrants etc. but their normally in very small rural counties, not mega populated counties such as Maricopa.

If you took Joe, away from his big budget, big manpower and resources, he'ld be like many other Sheriff's hoping he's got enough people to fill the shift, and enough money to pay for the gas in the patrol cars, for the rest of the budget year.

He's got good ideas and has been able to do alot of things that others can't or won't do. You can't deny that budget and manpower can make things possible, that wouldn't be possible any other way.

" You've never even worked in LE, nor a Sheriff's Dept. and don't have a clue what the mission or duties are."

..........you got that right, Copper,( Jimmy Cagney voice)
....I've been a career wise guy forever (Edward G.Robinson voice)
...........shifts cigar and grabs Tommy Gun,....and gets a glazed look in eyes
Oh, you dirty rat,..... ( that's Cagney again, No?),

Confused, at this seemingly pointless / crazy text?

......hey, if ACTING / TALKING CRAZY and roaming the fields of wierd is where you need to be,....all of us being able to play there is just fair turn around, No? Your BS comes across pretty screw ball,....I KNOW where mine's comin' from, Deputy.

You seem to think that this is an interogation room,.....( Lord, please NEVER let me occupy a space like that with this "Snark")

....at this time, it AIN'T,....

And ( Jimmy Cagney Voice kicks in)
....you dirty coppers 'll never take me alive.


Bwa ha


" I hate to tell you this,"

No, you don't, you RELISH your nonsense

....and by and large we wait , and wonder if you'll at some point,......you'll

MAKE A POINT ?

Your nay saying defeatism is good to go,...and clearly itterated.

That's good,..... burn out factor / Lab Rat situations that made you so articulate in this area.......A damn shame, but noteworthy in terms of studying Morale in Toilet.

Which is not everybody's idea as how to view the world......

Some remain fairly cheerful, and optimistic......

"Losers in control",...what a great book title,...you just keep pounding those keys,......there's really worse folks that you could be vommiting all this up in front of, you know.....and damned interesting (though noisome at times) material to look at, we have strong stomachs.

........... If you like folks that mince words,...perhaps you should try a baking site.

GTC

Good point made here,......that this is now so commonplace just off to the South,.....as to how our reaction would be should this occur in an American City or Town,..........

closing lines are in synch with article's title,......a grim and bleak forecast


Link: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/72397

Drug Cartels Threaten To Take-Over Mexico�Is The U.S. Next?
Dave Gibson



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August 26, 2008
Recently, Villa Ahumada Police Chief Jesus Blanco Cano was shot to death after only one day on the job. The town is located in the northern Mexican state of Chihuahua which is the territory of the very violent and powerful Juarez drug cartel.

The town had been without a police chief since this past May, when a band of 70 gunmen raided the town and murdered the previous chief, along with two of his officers as well as several civilians. After the attack, out of fear, the rest of the town�s 20-officer police force resigned.

While the murder of a police chief by the hands of organized crime would be front-page news and cause for great alarm in the United States, high-profile murders of police officers and citizens alike by the powerful Mexican drug cartels have become commonplace.

On August 13, 2008, paramilitary gunmen wearing body armor, burst into a drug rehab center in Juarez. The attackers dragged several patients outside and executed them. At the time, a religious ceremony was taking place. Eight people, including a pastor were killed and six more were seriously wounded.

Those murders were among 43 which took place in Juarez over a three day period.

On June 4, 2008, husband and wife police officers Gabriel Padilla Perez and Claudia Tovar Carreon were shot to death in front of their Juarez home, as they left for work. The couple left behind two small children. A day earlier, a 25-year-old pregnant woman was killed outside a shopping mall a few miles away, as a shootout broke-out between rival gang members.

In May of this year, the chief of Mexico�s federal police force was assassinated entering his home in Mexico City. Commander Edgar Millan Gomez and his bodyguards were gunned down by several men in an ambush-style attack. He was shot nine times and died a short time later, after being taken to a hospital.

Commander Gomez was to date, the highest-ranking law enforcement official to fall victim to the current drug war. Many believe that his murder was in retaliation for the January arrest of Sinaloa Cartel leader Alfredo Beltran Leyva.

On April 26, 2008, 14 gang members were killed in a bloody shootout among rival cartel elements in the streets of Tijuana. The long-fought battle which took place in the middle of the night, was fought with high-powered rifles and machine guns.

There are four major drug cartels currently operating inside Mexico. The groups are extremely violent and have become very bold, regularly murdering police officers and various government officials. These cartels account for more than 80 percent of the illegal drugs sold in the United States, including marijuana, methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin.

A list of the Mexican drug cartels follows:

Tijuana Cartel�Run by the Arrelano Felix family. The cartel nearly collapsed in 2002, after Ramon Arrelano Felix was killed by the police, and brother Benjamin was taken into custody. However, the cartel has since seen a resurgence in strength and violence of late, and continues to be a major player in the smuggling of marijuana and cocaine into the U.S.

Sinaloa Cartel�Infamous for the smuggling of cocaine from Columbia, and heroin from Southeast Asia. They also produce their own brand of heroin. U.S. law enforcement has identified Sinaloa Cartel distribution centers in Arizona, California, Texas, New York, and Chicago.

The Sinaloa Cartel uses the gangs known as MS-13 and the Mexican Mafia to distribute drugs inside the U.S.

Gulf Cartel�Utilizes an elite paramilitary group known as the Zetas as enforcers. Many of the Zetas were actually trained at U.S. military bases, in an effort by this country to aid the Mexican government in their fight against the cartels. Upon their return to Mexico, they were recruited by the Gulf Cartel, who offered them a much higher salary than did the government.

The Zetas have proven to be ruthless fighters in the cartel�s ongoing war with the Sinaloa Cartel.

The Gulf Cartel boasts of relationships with corrupt officials and is based in Matamoros, Tamaulipas, they also have major operations in the city of Nuevo Laredo and account for the increased violence now being seen there.

Juarez Cartel�Perhaps, the wealthiest of the cartels. According to the U.S. State Department, the Juarez Cartel "controls one of the primary transportation routes for billions of dollars worth of drug shipments entering the United States from Mexico annually."

The Juarez Cartel has been publicly posting hit lists containing the names of Juarez police officers. Many of those officers have been murdered, and still more have fled the city.

Kidnappings, torture, and shootouts have become a way of life in violence-plagued Juarez. That Mexican city which shares a border with El Paso, TX, has already seen an astounding 800 murders since January 2008.

In addition to the sale of narcotics, the cartels profit heavily by collecting so-called �protection money� from legitimate businesses, street-level drug dealers, and those known as �coyotes� who smuggle people illegally into the U.S. the cartels also regularly kidnap Mexicans as well as U.S. citizens for ransom, usually seeking a sum of about $300,000.Mexico�s office of Public Security recently announced that since 2001, authorities have arrested 897 kidnappers. Incredibly, 56 of those arrested were actually public officials.


On August 25, 2008, a kidnapping ring was broken-up and the members taken into custody in the state of Nuevo Leon. The leader of the group was Commandante Sonia Virginia Bastida Morales. She is an agent in Mexico�s AFI (that country�s version of the FBI). At the time of her arrest, her and her two accomplices were holding two men for ransom.

The influence which the cartels are having on the people of Mexico is far-reaching and threatens every law-abiding person in that country. An example of this comes from a recent survey which reported that 120 of the 200 taxi drivers in the city of Chetumal, report to have been threatened with violence against their families, if they refused to deliver drugs on behalf of the local drug cartel.

An incredible example of how deeply corruption runs in Mexico came in 1997, when Mexican authorities seized a decommissioned U.S. Air Force C-130A which had been sold to the Mexican airline Aero Postal de Mexico. The plane was in fact being used to transport drugs from Central and South America. It was discovered that the owner of the airline had connections to the Tijuana Cartel.

A few facts on the violence being perpetrated by Mexico�s drug cartels:

Since 2006, nearly 500 police officers, soldiers, and prosecutors have been killed by cartel gunmen.

According to the National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers, there have been 4,867 executions performed by Mexican drug cartels since December 1, 2006.

Narco-violence is responsible for 2,712 murders so far in 2008.

Cartels often behead their victims, and even release videos of taped executions on the internet.

The Zetas have been linked to several murders as far north as Dallas, TX.

According to the Department of Homeland Security, over 3,000 families have fled the city of Juarez this year, seeking refuge in the U.S.

In May, Homeland Security officials announced to the press that there were at the time, three Mexican police chiefs seeking asylum in the U.S. apparently, police officials have been seeking safety in the U.S. for several months.

Deputy Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection Jayson ahern told the associated press: "They�re basically abandoned by their police officers or police departments in many cases."

Ahern went on to say: "It�s like a military fight. I don�t think that generally the American public has any sense of the level of violence that occurs on the border."

On August 25, 2008, federal and local law enforcement officials told the Associated Press that Mexican drug cartels are now sending hit men into the U.S.

Officer Chris Mears of the El Paso Police Department told reporters: "We received credible information that drug cartels in Mexico have given permission to hit targets on the U.S. side of the border. One of the first things we did was to notify all officers in our department of the situation."

Two months ago, police in New Mexico and Texas received a cartel hit list, uncovered by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The list contained the name of at least one New Mexico police officer.

Luna County Sheriff's Capt. Arturo Baeza told the press: "We have been concerned for quite some time that this thing will spill over here."

Of course, threats to U.S. law enforcement from drug smugglers is nothing new. Assaults on Border Patrol agents began rising at unprecedented rates a few years ago. Since 2001, assaults (which include shootings) have tripled, with 987 in 2007.

Snipers stay on the Mexican side of the border and move about freely. They fire a few shots at agents, then move to cover--only to fire again from another location. The tactics are typical of military sniper training. More than likely, the snipers are creating a diversion so that the smugglers can cross in another location. They know that the U.S. agents cannot pursue them into Mexico, and their own government is seemingly powerless to stop their activities.

In 2005, Border Patrol spokesman Andy Adame said: "We believe the vast majority of these assaults are directly tied to alien and drug smugglers based in Mexico."

Of course, Mexico�s drug cartels are now beginning to operate within the interior of the U.S. According to the U.S. department of Justice, the cartels now control the distribution of methamphetamine in Atlanta, GA.

So far, Mexican President Felipe Calderon has deployed 36,000 troops nationwide to combat the cartels. However, the efforts by the Mexican government have done very little to stop the violence and the cartels appear to be winning.

With a largely unprotected border, it is very easy for cartel hit men to cross into the U.S, and only if our elected representatives get serious about border enforcement, can Americans hope to be protected from this violence.

Unfortunately, it appears that we can expect to see the kind of narco-violence now destroying Mexico in our own cities very soon.

This can be controlled in the US versus Mexico. Totally different concept between Mex. LE and US LE.

I don't see it happening here. There's many reasons why it wouldn't take hold as it does in Mex. I am not going to explain them, you wouldn't believe or understand them anyway.

" you wouldn't believe or understand them anyway."

Well, OF COURSE we wouldn't,....mere mortals, .....lacking your vast and extensive knowledge of "How things Really are"

" Totally different concept between Mex. LE and US LE."

......more like there WAS,....once,

....day by day the "Que sera, Sera",....."Not my Job",......"Someone else's responsibilty", "No Budget Available" Attitude that's VISIBLY and textually present in contemporary LE
( you've just given a brilliant multi post treatise on just this) sees us sliding further down a slippery slope towards their (Mex) abys.

Think about this,

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Why don't you ask others on here, who are involved in LE, if US LE is concerned about being taken over by Mex. drug/gang lords?

As to why this isn't an issue in US LE. I don't know what part you don't understand about this but this, but you just compared every LEO in the US, to that of the Mexican LE.

I feel LEO's in the US are higher paid, better trained and have much more dedication to our duties, then that, of any Mexican LEO in the entire country of Mexico. We have a higher level of supervisory/administrators personnel then in Mex. We have in general a better judicial and Governmental system then that of the country of Mexico.

We go to work everyday and do the best possible job that we can, with the resources that we have availible. I am just stating true facts regarding such things as manpower and budget.

I think you just want to argue, since you have NO, experience or training on the subject. I think you just want to start [bleep] over something you know nothing about.

You yourself stated yesterday that you have no LE experience, so what gives, why do you continue to talk [bleep], about something that you know about as much, as a hog does about Sunday school?

Why don't you ask for the input of other LEO's on this site as to their input on the issue?