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#2418887 - 09/07/08 What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull?
Jason280 Offline
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I've been looking for a .25 caliber rifle, and came across a Mauser 96 in .25-06. This is one of the straight pull bolt guns, and I should get it by Wednesday. Anyone have any experience with these guns, and what is the general consensus on the rifles? Thanks!

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#2418928 - 09/07/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Jason280]
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are you sure its not a mauser 98? If i remember correctly the 96's should only be fitted with barrel like 257 roberts and 6.5X55 because they cant handle the pressure. I would probably shy away from a 25-06 model 96

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#2418962 - 09/07/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Sinman6]
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 Originally Posted By: Sinman6
are you sure its not a mauser 98? If i remember correctly the 96's should only be fitted with barrel like 257 roberts and 6.5X55 because they cant handle the pressure. I would probably shy away from a 25-06 model 96


Sinman, the Mauser 96 he's speaking of is not the old Military M96, but a newer design produced back in the early 1990's (IIRC). It was a new design, incorporating a straight-pull design, as opposed to a "normal" rotating bolt. It didn't sell well (probably because it was "different") and was discontinued a bit later. I always thought it was an interesting design, but I've never seen one here in ND....

http://www.mauser.com/uploads/pics/Modell96s_02.jpg

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#2419058 - 09/07/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Jason280]
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If you are talking about the Mauser 96 American? They are kind of a interesting design IMO. As you most likely know the part that stands out about them is the extremely fast cycling bolt. The trigger is fairly stiff around 5 pounds on mine.

They were only sold for a coupe years in the 90s only seen them at gun shows, never saw any at a gun shop. They didn't sell very well. So Mauser quickly stopped producing them. I bought one new around 1996 or so in 6.5x55 mostly because I have a weakness for anything in 6.5x55 and the fact that they were a little different. Can't tell you how they shoot, embarrassed to say I've never got around yet to shoot mine yet. To many other projects going I guess.

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#2419060 - 09/07/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Kaiser Norton]
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ahh I never even see one of those before. I would probably try it if I could get a deal on it.

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#2419306 - 09/07/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Sinman6]
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Got one in 270.. shoots sub-moa.

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#2419388 - 09/07/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Calhoun]
Jason280 Offline
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Honestly, I've never seen one outside of a catalog or on the internet (and I have never touched one in real life). I have a weakness for odd guns, and this is certainly one you won't see very often in the local deer camp. I had a .25-06 a few years back, and its a good thing I held on to my extra ammo!

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#2419678 - 09/08/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Jason280]
Lee24 Offline
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The Mauser Model 96 is a lot like the Blaser action.
You don't lift the bolt handle, you just pull it back about 20 degrees, unlocking the bolt.

I have seen two for sale, a .270 and a .308. Not fancy, but nicely built.
The .308 was a used on in rural Georgia, where no one knew what it was, so they were only asking $500 on consignment.

Last year, the online Mauser catalog in German looked like they had s replacement for it. Given the quality of the other current Mauser rifles, I imagine this thing is on par with the Blaser mechanically, but have heard no feedback.

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#2432153 - 09/13/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Lee24]
Jason280 Offline
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Well, I picked up the rifle yesterday, and I have to admit I am quite impressed. The action is relatively easy to operate, and is undoubtedly faster to cycle than a standard bolt. Fit and finish on the gun is fantastic, and trigger pull isn't bad.

Here's my question now. How in the world do you disassemble the gun or remove the bolt? There are two bolts holding the stock to the action, in the standard location you would expect. Only issue is, they are rounded off and cannot be turned with a flat head screwdriver or allen wrench. Any ideas?

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#2432158 - 09/13/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Jason280]
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Used to have a link to the online manual, let me see if I can find it. If not, I can go dig my manual out and see if it has anything. I, personally, refuse to touch that bolt.

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#2432185 - 09/13/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Calhoun]
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There be a gun shop 37 miles from my house with a unfired example in 06. They are asking 450.00. I have thought about buying it but wonder how robust the bolt assembly would be if for some reason you had a case stick.
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#2432843 - 09/13/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Jason280]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason280


Here's my question now. How in the world do you disassemble the gun or remove the bolt? There are two bolts holding the stock to the action, in the standard location you would expect. Only issue is, they are rounded off and cannot be turned with a flat head screwdriver or allen wrench. Any ideas?
Congratulations! The two stock action screws OEM take a 5mm Allen wench hopefully they are not messed up.

On the bolt to remove, 1st make a mental note of the position of the bolt handle when closed. Now pull back on the bolt to the rear. Use a 4mm Allen wrench and take out the 4mm cap screw at the top of the bolt handle were it turns 90 degrees. With the bolt handle removed you can now remove the bolt for cleaning the barrel. Careful not to play with the bolt and it will just slide back in and you can re attach the bolt handle.

Than to assemble slide bolt back in. Than reattach bolt handle. Make sure you index bolt handle correctly (its kind of on some cam lobes) and just snug up the 4mm Allen making sure its seated correctly on the cam lobes when doing so.

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#2432861 - 09/13/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: JungleJim]
Lee24 Offline
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Stuck case is probably going to just require pushing out with a cleaning rod, while the bolt handle is pulled to unlock the lugs.

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#2432965 - 09/13/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Lee24]
Jason280 Offline
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 Quote:
Congratulations! The two stock action screws OEM take a 5mm Allen wench hopefully they are not messed up.


The issue is, the stock action screws are rounded, almost like a carriage bolt. I'll try and get a few pics...

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#2433567 - 09/14/08 Re: What to expect with a Mauser 96 straight pull? [Re: Jason280]
Jason280 Offline
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OK, I'm an idiot. The stock/action bolts are hex head, and were simply covered with "aesthetic" black caps. I should be able to figure out how to get the out once I've removed the action from the stock.

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