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"At least 900 Christian families have fled Mosul in the past week, terrified by a series of killings and threats by Muslim extremists ordering them to convert to Islam or face possible death, officials said Saturday.

The attacks may have been prompted by Christian demonstrations ahead of provincial elections, which are to be held by the end of January, the deputy governor of Nineveh province said.

Deputy Gov. Khasro Goran said 13 Christians have been slain in the past two weeks inMosul, about 260 miles (420 kilometers) north of Baghdad. Fleeing Christians have sought refuge in monasteries and churches and with family members in other towns, an Interior Ministry official said.

The attacks began after hundreds of Christians took to the streets in Mosul and surrounding villages and towns, seeking greater representation on provincial councils, whose members will be chosen in the local elections.

Duraid Mohammed Kashmoula, Nineveh's governor, told The Associated Press that the exodus was "a major displacement."

"Of course, al Qaeda elements are behind this campaign against Christians," Kashmoula told AP.

The Interior Ministry official said the homes of three families were destroyed with explosives Saturday after the occupants left. No injuries were reported."

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.violence/index.html

Hmmmm....Turnabout! Fair play?...or not?

Huh?

GPA is NOT articulate. Don't expect to read anything you can understand...

Penny

islam sucks....

I'm thinking this is a Crusades reference, but I might/could be wrong.

As far as the fair play thing, I've never been a fan.

George

Life isn't fair. We all learn to deal with it, right?

Penny

Everybody that I respect has!

I'd rather win than play fair.

George

Small fry compared to the Spanish Inquisition though!!

If you are interested on the subject of Muslim suppression of Christians you should really study the modern history of Egypt where they were once(not so long ago) a sizable minority in the country and now are a piddling few. Of course the MSM never covered the story due to their hatred of Christianity and the fact that it would have hurt the efforts of Jimmah Carter.

Foxbat ordered me to convert to McCain or die. Not much different.

One more reason for Christians to cling to their God and their guns.
And one more reason to reject Muslims as a bunch murderers.

Pat

The Spanish Inquistion wasn't carried out by the church. It was the government. Spain was engulfed in the battle of Castile to overthrow the Moors. After they succeeded, Ferdinand and Isabella, king & queen of Spain decided to thank God in their own totally warped way. They instigated the inquisition which was completely and totally NON-scriptural. They broke every rule God ever laid down for Christians to live by.

It was at this same time that they send Columbus on his canoe ride.

The church's inquistition in the rest of Europe also wasn't carried out by Christians. It makes no difference what name they called themselves, the inquisitors were NOT Christians. No real Christian could ever do the evil things that they did.
1Jo 3:24 Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them.

Coming soon to a theater near you???

If America doesn't hang on to (cling to) its Christian roots it's finished. Same goes for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I have a wonderful old history book from 1852, a school text book. Herer's an extract speaking of righteous government.

"...and which they are bound to administer the government, is set forth in the Constitution of the United States. This therefore, should be early learned, and throughly understood by every American.

The government of the United States is acknowledged by the wise and good of other nations, to be the most free, impartial, and righteous government of the world; but all agree, that for such a government to be sustained many years, the principles of truth and righteousness, taught in the Holy Scriptures must be practiced. The rulers must govern in the fear of God and the people obey the laws."

In another place this book states that knowing intimately the Constitution of the US is paramount for preservation of liberty and therefore is to be DAILY READING for all sudents.

You don't learn that in schools these days. Nor will you ever hear talk like this from Obama or any other muslim.

"Small fry compared to the Spanish Inquisition."

yeah, well, a scripture from the Holy Bible comes to mind: "don't despise small beginnings". (despise means same as "scoff at")

This thing is going to get really big and really ugly as those millions of boys in radical Islamic schools start going out in the world.

ps

I'll bet you never hear that kind of talk from GPA and dlrow, either. I'd bet a dollar to a donut they despise both the Bible and Constitution/BoR vehemently!

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What's your point?

Read a little more...Where you like it or not, history shows it was driven my the Catholic Church and the catholic Monarchy of Spain. This was a Pope sponsored genocide of Muslims,Jews, certain Christians and other non Catholics....Please don't try to revise history and spin it otherwise.

"The Spanish Inquisition was a legally constituted court decreed by Sixtus IV's Papal Bull and implemented under Ferdinand and Isabella of Castile beginning in 1478. As Christian European monarchs regained control of Spain from Muslim rulers, the Christian Monarchy gradually imposed and enforced certain legal restrictions on non-Catholics. Spaniards who were not Catholics were not allowed into any of the major professions. Similarly, non-Catholics were forbidden from civil service by royal decree. Other legal and property rights depended on being baptized as did entrance into schools and general social standing.

Many Muslims and Jews in Spain went along with the Crown in order to keep or get jobs, be considered part of Spanish society or simply to comply with the obvious wishes of the government. Many conversos (people who had converted from one religion to Christianity) were secular by upbringing and had little or no connection to their abandoned religions. But many who had converted during and after the massacres of 1391 did it simply to avoid death and had held onto what was, by 1478, more than a thousand years of Jewish culture and tradition in Spain.

The Crown and the Vatican were concerned with the idea of converts following non-Christian ways of life. There was also a realization in Spain and Rome that large amounts of wealth had been looted in 1468 and 1473 along with concern that those proceeds should have gone to the government and the Church. Certain behaviors (some actual religious practices - others created by the Inquisitors) were labeled by the Church as �Judaising� and were strictly prohibited under punishment of death.

As of 1478, any convert suspected or accused (however haphazardly) of Judaising was tried and put through an �act of faith� (auto de fe), the result of which was always one form of horrible punishment or another. None of the accused was found innocent - the only two possible outcomes of the Church�s would-be trials were guilt by admission and guilt with denial, the latter being cause for Church and State sponsored execution. Certain Church historians have recently asserted that anti-Semitism was not one of the main motivators for Rome or Spain, pointing out that the Inquisition only targeted converted Jews accused of Judaising, not Jews who refused to convert. This argument seems less convincing in view of Ferdinand�s expulsion of the Jews (including and especially the ones who never converted) from the country of Spain in 1492.

Any Jew or Muslim who had not converted and did not leave Spain was thereafter legally executed by the Crown with the Pope�s knowledge and approval. Many practicing Jews and Muslims had left Spain by early August of 1492 and any who did not leave were executed soon afterwards. Many of the converts were killed anyway when they were accused of heresy thereafter, usually people who a) had money and/or b) could be accused of having a Jewish or Muslim ancestor, whether it was true or not.

The Spanish Inquisition was loosely connected with the Holy Office of the Inquisition into Heretical Depravity (which lacked the manpower/resources to conduct the inquisition properly). The Holy Office of the Inquisition into Heretical Depravity was responsible for many other inquisitions, largely targeting Christian dissenters, secular freethinkers and Jews.

The Inquisition was removed during Napoleonic rule (1808�1812), but reinstituted when Ferdinand VII of Spain recovered the throne. It was officially ended on 15 July 1834. Schoolmaster Cayetano Ripoli, garroted to death in Valencia on July 26, 1826 (allegedly for teaching Deist principles), was the last person executed by the Spanish Inquisition. "

I'm not Catholic and I'm not covering for the extreme evil done by some very corrupt popes. My main point is that just calling yourself a Christian doesn't make you one. Christian churches worldwide seat millions every Sunday who are not saved even though they think they are, and that includes Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, and all the rest.
No Christian would have participated in the Inquisition. It was one of the most evil periods in church history and you can be confidant that those who participated are sorely regretting it now, and will be eternally.

The state's involvement in the Inquisition escalated the atrocities to unbelievable levels in Spain. The Spanish demonstrated the depths of depravity to which man can fall when they let Satan get involved in their religion.