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Years back, I used Sierras because they shot a little more accurately from my rifle. I killed moose with them, and I usually am hesitant to say a bullet failed if I eat the animal it killed. I did notice that I was not getting complete penetration from the Sierras, and I was also not recovering any bullets. I switched to Hornady 165 BTSP IL and was running them out the tube at 2892 fps. Still getting dead moose, but I was finding the bullets nicely expanded near the far side of the moose.
For deer, and maybe elk, I would recommend highly, that you find a load that works well in your rifle with the interlock bullets -- 165 variety -- around 2800 - 2900 fps. Mine liked a stiff load of IMR4350, but I'm guessing that H414 would do as well.
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Well, when I run out of those 2 boxes of Hornady .338 250 gr RN "junk" loads that turn out MOA 5 shot groups in 8 or 10 years, I guess I'll load up some Sierra GK 250 BT. They went about 1" at 200 yards... also "junk" loads. I just happened to write them down.....  My average moose kill is 60 yards, or so...... Corelocts, Hornadays, or GameKings- whatever the gun likes.
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Maybe the Interlock gets more raves becaue it often looks prettier when found under the hide on the far side, a classic mushroom back to the Interlock ring. I think that's quite possibly true. (What a fickle bunch we are eh?  )
Somebody else mentioned the ProHunter (flat-base) versus the GameKing (boattail). The general belief is that boattails tend to separate more easily, because the tapered rear of the jacket doesn't grip the core as well as a "square" rear. I used to believe this myself, until one day when I went through all the recovered bullets I've filed away over the years in a couple of big tackleboxes. There are a quite a few of these, and it turned out that twice as many FLAT-based bullets had separated jacket from core as had boattails. So I quite worrying about it, and since then have used whichever one shoots best.
Every time I've seen you mention that - the first time, I suppose, in Rifle magazine, I think of one particular Speer I collected; not the Hot-Cors which are "fused": ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/556/6772DSCF130Speerbtsp7mm.JPG)
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Nothing against Sierra or Hornady. Years ago, I found the Speer 180 SPBT to shoot extremly well in my 30-06. Over those years I've shot numerous cow and bull elk, plenty of mulies. Never a hitch. Never a recovered bullet. Just a good hole, all the way through. I could also just about eat upto the hole.
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Interesting topic as I just picked up a box of Sierra Gameking hollow points boat tails to try out, again.
The hollow point version of the Game King is to my understanding a stouter made bullet than the softpoint.
I killed my first mule deer with an 6mm 85 GK HPBT and went on to kill elk with 7mm 160 HPBT till I could afford Partitions.
Not high in BC numbers but what did we know back in the day. BC was a unknown number to us and we just killed game with them sometimes at distance.
My AZ buddies loved the 120 HPBT in their 25-06's and killed elk and large mule deer with them.
The GK performs and I know I can hunt the GK HPBT will total confidence.
It's a great cup and core bullet, second to none in my book.
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SU-I totally concur with you about the HPBT Sierra. I have used it a lot in several cals and have always found it to be as tough as a cup n core bullet around. Plus it's always shined well in the accuracy dept as well. I do kind of wish that it's BC was a bit better but I have used it more than a fair bit for chucks out to 500 so I guess it'll do just fine...  By the way, I'll give you a call tomorrow to wish you a happy bd...grins Dober
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Look forward to hearing from you.
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"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
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I'm thinking of buying myself a Leupold scope and a Costco chocolate cake! Mark 2 3x9 LR for the new 284 win build. Only 7mm that grabs my attention now.
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Hey if I was gonna be there I'd buy the Costco pizza...grins
That Mark 2 3-9 LR is one heck of a scope!
Dober
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Yep!
I figure best of both worlds dotz and turret.
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U got that right, now if you could only put it on a 264... Dober
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