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A good cleaning will solve any problems caused by shooting .45 Colt (There's no such thing as .45 Long Colt to purists, just .45 Colt and .45 ACP).

All cartridges leave a crud ring in the cylinder at the depth of the case mouth. The .45 Colt case is shorter than the .454 Casull, so the crud ring is going to cause interference with the longer case. The same thing happens when interchanging .38 Special and .357 Mag, .44 Special and .44 Mag, etc.

The problem with the .454 Casull is exacerbated by the high pressure the round develops, kinda welding the case wall to the crud ring. The case can be tough to extract, especially when hot. After the empty case cools and contracts it might be easier to remove.

Like Kevin said, problems with a high pressure round such as the .454 Casull require special consideration. I would clean the daylights out of the cylinder and give it a few more shots. Any problems after that and the revolver would go right back to Taurus.

While it's completely safe to interchange .45 Colt and .454 Casull, you're going to have to be meticulous about cleaning the cylinder.


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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
I would clean thoroughly the cylinders first. Then go buy some actual factory ammo and try shooting it.

My guess is you have some crappy handloads given to you.


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Some great info on your Bull. If you are mixing 45 colt, and 454 ammo in same gun, you must clean cylinders before going back to 454 ammo... I have never shot 45 Colt brass in my 454 for just this reason. I use the Blackhawks and Redhawks (45 colt) for that work....

Let us know how it works out..

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I cleaned the gun up real good and shot two different kinds of ammo through it without any problems at all. The first ones I shot were Hornaday, 454 Casull, 240gr., XTP/MAG, Item #9148 which had a pretty good kick. The next ones I shot were Winchester 454 Casull, 250gr., Super-X, Jacketed Hollow Point which did not kick near as much. In each case, I filled the entire cylinder with 5 bullets, and then was able to easily eject the shells by pushing on the ejector rod like it's supposed to work. Thanks for everyone's advice. Take care.

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My son has one that we both used on and off for several years. Many .45 colt loads as well 454 factory and handloads. Gun is very tight, ejects all 5 and well works perfect. Sounds like you got some Bubba ammo


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Yeah, I agree. I probably need to get rid of it, but I don't really want to put it in the trash. I'll probably see if they have a good way to dispose of it at the gun range next time I go as I don't even want to shoot anymore of it through my gun. I didn't have any problems with the new ammo I bought except it was too expensive and shot too fast through the gun.

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Brass and bullets aren't cheap. I'd pull the bullets, pour out the powder and reload the cases.

Glad to hear it's all working out, I happen to be quite fond of the Raging Bull revolver; but I'm not real fond of the .454...ouch!

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Yeah, I want to get into reloading someday, but I'm not there yet. I still have a meat grinder I've never taken out of the box. Still paying the meat processors to get my deer mixed up with someone else's.

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You can get an inexpensive bullet puller looks like a hammer at the local gun shop.. Should cost around 11-17 dollars.
Now you have purchased your first reloading tool..

Like Kevin says, these components are getting expensive.... You really should look into reloading, you can tailor your loads to what you want, and it is just as fun as shooting in my opinion....


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Ya shoulda bought a Freedom Arms .454 Casull!!!!!


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Originally Posted by Bighorn
Ya shoulda bought a Freedom Arms .454 Casull!!!!!


Yeah, it's a bargain at 2 grand!! LOL!


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The Gun Digest Book of Hunting Revolvers:
https://youtu.be/zKJbjjPaNUE

Bovine Bullet Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtZky8T7-k&t=35s

Gun Digest TV's Modern Shooter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGo-KMpXPpA&t=7s
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Originally Posted by Whitworth1
Originally Posted by Bighorn
Ya shoulda bought a Freedom Arms .454 Casull!!!!!


Yeah, it's a bargain at 2 grand!! LOL!


And in this case done the exact same thing, or worse, as the Taurus.


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