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#2838461 - 02/24/09 09:20 AM Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06?
43Shooter Offline
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Registered: 05/28/08
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Couldn't find this in search feature but might have missed it. You mentioned this combination but I couldn't find any specifics. There's a lot there on Blue Dot in the 30-06. I noticed you stopped at 27/28 grains of Blue Dot with 150 grain bullets. Would this be a good starting point with 125s and do you recall what you considered the most effective or accurate 125 BT load? As a side note I've had good shooting with your 223 Blue Dot loads and saved some money on powder. Appreciate your research.

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#2838577 - 02/24/09 10:21 AM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: 43Shooter]
selmer Offline
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I'll answer for him - NO! Do not start at 27/28 gr. with 125 gr. bullets and work up, you will run pressures into dangerous range. The 27/28 gr. is max load no matter the bullet weight. The data is basically the same charges, even with different weights of bullets. I had very good results with 125 BTs on top of 22 gr. of Blue Dot. Very accurate, negligible recoil.
Seafire, if you care to dispute me on this, feel free, I'm running off of your data and what you have told me.
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#2838959 - 02/24/09 01:02 PM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: selmer]
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Thanks, glad I asked.

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#2840929 - 02/25/09 07:36 AM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: 43Shooter]
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No problem, I'd hate to see pics of your rifle looking like the rifle blow up thread from a double charge of Blue Dot. Again, I'll echo Seafire - charge a case - seat a bullet. Don't do a whole loading block. I did it once, used the flashlight to check for double charges, realized I couldn't get much depth perception with that little of powder in a .30-06. I dumped them all and started over.
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#2845496 - 02/27/09 01:25 AM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: selmer]
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Sorry,

I missed this somehow.. but I have really been quite sick this past month.. and have some other issues that are dogging me in life right now...

As far as safe loads with Blue Dot in the 06 with 125 grain ballistic tips, I'd recommend a max of 24 grains just to be on the safe side of things..

you can work up toward 26 grains in 2/10 grain increments, but for real world figures, I don't think you will gain much...

24 grains will probably put you in the 38K to 40 K range on pressure...with a 125 grain bullet, according to what someone said when they ran it on QuickLoad..

remember to work up from a lower point...

also I highly recommend the procedure of charging a case, and then seating the bullet before going onto the next case...
this will eliminate a chance of a double charge... and please refer to the thread I posted about a member of another site not paying attention and accidently double charging a 257 Weatherby...and it blew up the gun....

you might also want to consider using SR 4759 instead...a charge of 25 to 30 grains will also give you what you are looking for.. published max for a 125 grainer and SR 4759 is 35 grains...
so at 25 to 30 you are being real safe...
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#2846268 - 02/27/09 10:00 AM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: Seafire]
43Shooter Offline
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Hope things get better for you. As I said, appreciate your research and contributions to the forum.

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#2846971 - 02/27/09 04:15 PM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: 43Shooter]
Seafire Offline
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Thanks 43Shooter....

comments like that help offset posts from guys who swear to God I am just out to kill somebody, and that's it..
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#2848503 - 02/28/09 11:19 AM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: 43Shooter]
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 Originally Posted By: 43Shooter
Hope things get better for you. As I said, appreciate your research and contributions to the forum.


I also hope you your health improves..you are better than any "Handloader" magazine I ever bought.

Doc

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#2851472 - 03/01/09 02:46 PM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: Doctor_Encore]
ttpoz Offline
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Loc: Wyoming
Hang in there, Seafire, alot of us appreciate your research, willingness to share, opinions, and posts. I've never found anybody that I agree with 100% of the time.

ttpoz

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#2852399 - 03/01/09 10:16 PM Re: Seafire, Blue Dot w/125 Ballistic Tips in 30-06? [Re: ttpoz]
Seafire Offline
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Loc: Southern Oregon USA
Doc Encore and ttpoz:

thanks for the kind words guys.. I really do appreciate them more than you know...
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