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sorry to impose on you Huh? Did I miss something?
Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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I agree, harmless and fun................547.
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I'd sell that gun if it won't shoot (blame the gun not the caliber) and buy a Sako 260 vs a bbl job, ... Either way, if you had a Sako I'd reckon you'd be ready to lose both M7s  +1 on the Sako and plus 1 on the .260. This is my third .260 (Sako Model 75 Finnlight) and I love it. That being said, I love my Kimber 7mm-08. I sold my Weatherby .308 Carbine. It was a great shooter, but didn't fit me right. To opine on the original questions put forth; buy the 7mm-08 and forget the rest. As we all know, bullet placement is the key, everything else is way back.
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Both are great cartridges and there isn't much you can do with one you cna't do with the other.
I would tend to favor the 7mm-08 because of the cost.
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thought about 7mm-08 in rem mod-7.gun store has used but never fired one for sale $200 less than a new one. would use it for brushy wooded area on deer becouse of its shorter lengh than my rem mod 700 30-06.is this better than a .308 win in this type of hunting?one gun writer says it's recoil is a little more than a .243,but if the 7mm uses 140 gr. bullets and .308 uses 150 gr. i thought it would be closer to the .308.not worried about recoil just the muzzle blast and muzzle lift, plus i reload for the 30-06 so have plenty of .30 cal bullets ,is it worth saving 200 dollors on gun then have to buy diffrent cal. bullets as in is it that much better hand have less recoil than a .308 win Having extentsive use with both the 30-06 and 7-08 on deer this is a no-brainer IMO.. The 7mm-08 has done everything and more than the 30-06 dose on deer.. After years of use with each, the 7mm-08 is overkill when deer are concerned. It dispatches big bucks with ease. "Dose more"!?! Yep, I've more one shot kills and fewer feet of tracking with the -08.. Also dose more with alot less recoil and it comes in sweet lightweight packages. Never shot anything but 140 partitions. I'm very interested in seeing what the 120tsx and the 150E-tip will do in the 7mm-08. At this point the 7mm-08 has absolutly been flawless. As far as the 30-06 comparison goes, I'm sure the 308 can also match the -06 when talking deer. Either way the 7mm-08 dose anything they can do with less recoil. It's been the greatest deer killer I've seen yet. I'd take one over any 270,-06, 7mm mag, 30-06, 300wm, anyday of the week!!!
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The whole factory High Energy argument is essentially a red herring. I've chron'd the 180 NP HE stuff in two 308's (22" bbl) and both shot it right at 2,700 fps. Accuracy in both rifles sucked.
My own 308 Win, 180 NP handloads go 2,665 fps and run below 3/4". A 7-08 will run a 160 NP around 2,650... as Mark remarked, there's nothing one does the other can't do equally well.
I've used the Fed HE in three or four 308's and the velocity was as advertised (~2,740) but the accuracy was about the same as your experience. As an aside, the HE velocity is approachable with a few powders I've tried (Big Game and VV N550 for example) in pressure tested loads.
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OOoohhhhhhh.
Salivating here, is the Load data posted?
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I don't think I've ever posted specific data, but here's an example:
48.0 N550, Rem case, CCI 200, 180 Sierra GK, 2741 fps, 54.3K
From the same rifle, with the same pressure testing unit, Winchester factory 180 Powerpoint did ~ 2630 @ 58.3K and Speer's RL15 book load did 2644 @ 57.4K, so the load appears to be perfectly safe in this rifle. I've also used a similar load with other bullets, cases, etc. in various rifles (with and without pressure sensing unit) and it always seems to be safe with velocities generally over 2,700 fps.
Big Game took a little more powder to reach this velocity and pressures were in the 60K-65K range, so I'll forego posting those, though I think they're about as safe as what a lot of guys load.
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N550... had heard the above might be possible. Very interesting!
My load of 45.0 gr's RL15/WW Brass/Fed 210/Nosler 180 goes 2,665 from a 22" barrel and goes sub moa.
Barrel length for your loads????????????????
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7-08 big is 15. 308 big is 11. 7-08 big is farrer no 308 big kan race it
30-06 is 36 and farest
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why duz ratkinsen bee doosh?
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7-08 big is 15. 308 big is 11. 7-08 big is farrer no 308 big kan race it
30-06 is 36 and farest I have absolutely no idea what that means.
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You flatter yourself initially,to rate a comment upon the thread.
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why duz ratkinsen bee doosh? I have absolutely no idea what that means.
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You flatter yourself initially,to rate a comment upon the thread.
I have absolutely no idea what that means.
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Without doubt,noone has ever lauded you as "bright","conceptual" or even "par".
Kudos.
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Barrel length for your loads???????????????? 22" barrel. All my 308 pressure data was done on either a Kimber Montana or a 700Ti.
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Gman, you using a pressure trace type system? Last time I had a 308 I vowed I'd give VV n550 a whirl. Tomorrow I'll make the rounds to see if I can scrounge up a pound or two.  Thanks for the reminder to do so!
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For conversation a SAAMI 22" 7-08 1-9" tube will reilably do 2700fps with the 162A-Max.
Such things,reliably fold 308Win sails,if only obviously.
I'll spell it out for those from Montana and the like: 2700fps + .625BC + 22 inch barrel = 308 pipe DREAMS.
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Without doubt,noone has ever lauded you as "bright","conceptual" or even "par".
Kudos. Amusing to read one that can't even use "conceptual" correctly in a sentence lecture me...
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