Where'd the boob go that was pointing his rifle at everything that wiggled?

I have no problems at all shooting unbraked 7mmstw and 300RUM rifles with 3.5" eye relief Swarovski scopes.My only issue has been when the eyepiece on my scope was accidentally turned and the red lever on my rear flip up lens cap struck my nose.It did smart a little,and there was a little blood as a result,but it didn't effect my shooting afterward.

Here's a few eyebox measurements that I did recently. The larger number would be what the manufacturer would use for "eye relief", although note that they're all a little shorter than published. Maybe a measurement issue. All at 4x:

1) Leupold VX-III 2.5-8x36, 2 - 4 1/4"
2) Nikon Team Primos 3-9x40, 1 7/8" - 3 5/8"
3) Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40, 2 1/4" - 3 7/8"
4) Bushnell Banner 3-9x40, 1 3/8" - 2 1/2"

To all that are saying that short eye-relief is fine for big magnums... Sure, even the Bushnell Banner is fine for a big kicker if I've got the rifle shouldered properly and a good head position (just talking eye relief, not quality.) But a quick field position and a varying thickness coat or tshirt and maybe creep up on the stock a little bit? *bam*.

Keep your short eye relief scopes. My forehead likes some leeway. I picked the Zeiss conquest for my .300 wby.

Thanks Doug, eye relief is shortest at the highest powers. Sorry to be a pain but if you get another chance, could you have a go with the scopes at their full power settings?

Yes, sorry. I tested them at what I normally carry them around at. That particular conquest is supposed to be "constant eye relief", and indeed 4-8x were all extremely similar. That was the only one I made a special check of the higher power for.

I got rid of the vx-iii after a low-light comparison between it and the zeiss, so I can't re-test that one. Though they list an eye relief range in the specs, so I'm guessing the low end is the higher powers. 8x is noticeably worse, from what I remember having it in the field (I had to creep up on the stock a lot at 8x.)

I am *not* re-testing the bushnell banner. We can just assume that it'll suck. :-)

I can re-test the team primos/monarch if you'd like.

TryMe,
Inficting your opinions that weren't asked for onto others is the sign of a jerk to me. You have volunteered nothing related to eye relief.

Michigan is designed on a grid system, fence rows are usually on historic determinded acre parcels 40 acres = 440 yards x 440 yards. Hunting beanfields is rather easy in determining range and I don't have to use a range finder very often at my blind. My hunting shack has shooting lanes with finite distances too. Overpopulation requires several animals to be shot each year and due to crop damage, my friends and I try to take legally as many deer as allowed. I farm and know all of our properties and they are private with specific distances. I also can tell a deer before I point at it, just need magnification to determine if it has the legal four points on one side. Magnification also allows me to take mature does as opposed to the younger ones. I take the most popular distances I am likely to shoot and mark my elevation turret. I don't try to shoot long distance in much wind so I don't compensate with a turret for windage. I do keep a ballistic chart taped to my stock, and I only shoot at game at yardages I've practiced at the range. I also have a range finder if time warrants its use. Use whatever you want to do whatever you want, but when dealing with me please stick to the question and don't judge that you don't know! You know nothing about me and where I've hunted, only the information I provide. I don't have time to volunteer a dissertation on my hunting techniques for your review every time I have a question, so keep unrelated comments to your self! Forget I even asked the original question, I'll figure it out on my own! I'm so sorry I never recognized your authority as the crowned king and judge of others' hunting methods on this forum,or asked your permission to post. There's something really wrong with this optics forum!

Thanks,
HH

Few things as compelling as "usually",in an LR range determination scenario,with an armed boob waving his muzzle at everything that moves.

Everything I mentioned is more than glaringly related,despite it obviously being over your head.

No need to apologize for your rampant stupidity...though you really should shut up and take notes.

I think eye-relief is actually measured from the back side of the rear-most piece of glass to front of your eyeball and what you're measuring is from the back of the tube to your eye-brow and since the tube sticks out past the glass (for protection) and your eye-brow sticks out past your eye (also for protection) then that measurement must, of course, be shorter than the listed eye-relief ---- they are two difference measurements mostly dependent how evolved you are.

"usually" means not all properties in the state are that way, but in my case they are known distances because I own and farm the land and have to know the measurements to calulate fertilizer and seed! My distances are completely known before shooting and so are my targets before shouldering the gun. If there is any question, I range it and if their isn't time for the shot - so be it, I don't take it! Go teach someone else your righteous ways, I'm sure some liberal might think your intelligent. Maybe you would make a good asvisor in Obama's cabinet teaching all us "Boobs" what we don't know and what is the correct way according to "TryMe". None of this relates to eye relief or eyebrow measurements so I'm done with you!

DB Bill,

Yeah, I realize now I need to pay attention to both measurements and more importantly the eyebrow clearance. I was trying to see if some manufacturers exaggerated more than others and hear peoples opinions on what offered the most eye relief or clearance in a higher powered scope. I figured advertised eye relief correlated with eyebrow clearance, but now see it doesn't ahve to and varies by design. My recoil pad is soft, so the rifle moves a lot with recoil shooting offhand. It hasn't done more than brush me so far and only when shooting quickly offhand so its not that big of a deal.

Thanks,
HH