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Jeff: After awhile, you become ambivilent about calibers,and just worry about bullets...hit them right with anything good,and it's surprising how well many of theses cartridges work. I couldn't agree more. Although I haven't shot an elk with a .270, shot placement with most .270 hunting bullets will do the trick.
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In the mid 80s I used 160 partitions in my Rem 760 270 win pump on both elk and mule deer, I don't remember recovering any bullets just dead animals. I've been using 130 gr for the last few years.
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Tim ask Yukoner if a 130gr Partition can cleanly take big game.Believe he could tell ya about lots of big game taken with that combo. Thanks, Mike. I will do that. Not very good at all for big game.........kills 'em! Ted
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Thanks Ted! Just what I needed to hear, as my little M70 FWT loves that 130gr partition; pretty good velocity too.
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Always lots of discussion about 130 vs. 160 gr. bullets in the .270 and also 150 vs. 180 in the 30-06 and .308...
What this amounts to is that for broadside shots the lighter bullet will work fine, but the more angle and stress you put on that bullet then the more weight you need..
I personally go for the heavy bullets as I want the capability of taking what ever shot I get, because the wolves have eaten enough of our elk that you may only get one chance, if that, and I want to be well prepared..thus my choice of the .338 and 300 gr. Woodleighs and my reason for hunting in the dark timber swamps where the good bulls head at the first shot of the season...
If I hunted the Sage brush side hills, the 130, 150, and 160 gr. Noslers would suit me fine, but with a big preference for the 160 Noslers..
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In Ray's circumstances, I understand 338's and 375's with heavy bullets.An elk is a lot bigger end to end than he is side to side.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Agreed, Bob. I was just curious about the 130 partition/270WCF as a 'in a pinch' elk gun. I got bigger stuff I would like to use as dedicated elk guns.
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Tim: Sure. The load is enough for elk, for sure,but we all run into those unusual circumstances.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Seems to me that the 160 grain .270 might be getting a little heavy for caliber. Why not just use a 30-06 and a 180 and be happy?
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Seems to me that the 160 grain .270 might be getting a little heavy for caliber. Why not just use a 30-06 and a 180 and be happy? Just wait a couple days, that thread will be started shortly! grin
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Seems to me that the 160 grain .270 might be getting a little heavy for caliber. Why not just use a 30-06 and a 180 and be happy? Cause you might only have a 270....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Seems to me that the 160 grain .270 might be getting a little heavy for caliber. Why not just use a 30-06 and a 180 and be happy? Seems to me that the 06 with a 180 seems a bit heavy, why not just get a 270 and shoot a 160 and be happy...... Dober
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the 160 grainer in the .270 is as big as they come On another site it was recently pointed out Woodleigh has released a 180 gn PP for the .270 Win. The SD is above .335, about that of the 220 gn .308s. A quick search on the web indicates 10" is the standard twist, and a (modified) Greenhill type calculation suggests this will be marginal, but I imagine Woodleigh did their homework and it will stabilize.
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Seems to me that the 160 grain .270 might be getting a little heavy for caliber. Why not just use a 30-06 and a 180 and be happy? Just wait a couple days, that thread will be started shortly! grin I doubt that it will take that long... Ingwe
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I think Barnes made a 170 gr. at one time.
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I like long heavy bullets in my 270 for shooting elk. The 160 grian partition is a good one but I really mourn the passing of the Barnes 180 grain 270 round nose. Wish I had bought a few hundred while they were still in production. Those torpedoes are perfect for big stuff in thick cover.
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Barnes made 180's not too long ago..
My dad liked the 160's in his 270. i also hunted a 270 in my younger years, he'd try and get me to shoot them, but the 130's killed just as dead, i thought!
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Hello,
It seems to be that a commercial cartridge is associated with certain bullet weight. As an example, the 130 grs for the .270 so a 160 grs bullet is considered "..heavy for the caliber" weight! But an almost identical cartridge, the 7x64 Brenneke, or another very simmilar, the 7x57, was originated and used, mainly, with 160 to 177 grs as the "normal" (�...?) bullet weight. So if someone ask for a 130 grs bullet in the 7x64, will be considered "..light for the caliber..". Thats all from my point of view... And, for the matter, If my primary use of the 270 would be for elk (or big Red Deer here), my bullet of choice would be the 160 grs Nosler Partition for sure. The same weight, plus the 175 grs, I use in the 7x57. Regards
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Seems to me that the 160 grain .270 might be getting a little heavy for caliber. Why not just use a 30-06 and a 180 and be happy? Seems to me that the 06 with a 180 seems a bit heavy, why not just get a 270 and shoot a 160 and be happy...... Dober Precisely! The best reason to use the 160NP in the 270 is because they don't make a 180! People are enticed by the 270 because the typical light-for-caliber 130 grain bullets shoot faster than real big game hunting bullets giving the shooter an impression that there is something "special" about the caliber. The same can be said about the 257 Roberts because the only bullets available for it are light-for-caliber. But load the 270 with a good hunting bullet weight and that is when it really becomes special, along with the many other calibers in the same category, including 7-08, 7x57, and 280. I've shot a lot of game with all the above, including the 270. Any of them perform splendidly with a good jacketed bullet with an SD of around 0.28 or higher. Yeah, I know - "broken record." -
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My wife Eileen has killed a bunch of big game animals with the .270--and I mean big game, not deer, such as elk, moose and bison. She has never used a bullet heavier than 150 grains, and the biggest animal she's killed (a cow bison that weighed 900-1000 pounds) was taken with a 130-grain Barnes TSX. It went the farthest of any BIG game she's shot with the .270, just about 40 yards. The bull moose she shot with the 150-grain Partition took about a step and a half before piling up. Would heavier bullets have killed them quicker?
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