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Spin is what we do when we put rifling in a barrel. It stabilizes the bullet. A big 30 will push a heavy for caliber bullet with enough additional speed to still cause it to expand and have penetrating energy left over at longer ranges.
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The RUM will smoke the .308 at truly long range, because it will spin heavy long bullets at much higher speeds...
What difference does spin speed make? Given the same caliber, heavier bullets are longer and need a higher spin rate (RPM) for stabilization. Given the same rifling twist rate, a faster projectile will spin at a higher RPM. In short, increasing velocity for a given rifling twist as the same effect that increasing twist has for a given velocity - a higher spin rate and better stabilization of heavier bullets.
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Yeah....simply stating the obvious.
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Jeebus guys...
I meant that it would spin a bullet down the tube at a higher velocity. Could have phrased it that it would toss a bullet faster... Fling one faster... Etc.
I wasn't sayin' squat about twist rates. My bad if it came across that way. Your bad if you tried to make something into something it wasn't. Again.
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i wouldn't use a bullet that weigh less than 200gr in my rum i shoot 200gr AB at 3200 fps or 210gr wildcats a tad slower .you lose the advantage the rum gives you when you use lighter bullets,at longer ranges Only if your shooting past 600, which most hunters are not.
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i wouldn't use a bullet that weigh less than 200gr in my rum i shoot 200gr AB at 3200 fps or 210gr wildcats a tad slower .you lose the advantage the rum gives you when you use lighter bullets,at longer ranges Only if your shooting past 600, which most hunters are not.
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200 gr bullets from big 30's are great alright,but I've noticed the elk can't tell the difference between them and a good 180.They die from either one.For that matter, a very good 165 makes them completely limp as well  Day in and day out, you'll do as well with a 180 as a 200.180's don't bounce off at long range.
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i wouldn't use a bullet that weigh less than 200gr in my rum i shoot 200gr AB at 3200 fps or 210gr wildcats a tad slower .you lose the advantage the rum gives you when you use lighter bullets,at longer ranges Only if your shooting past 600, which most hunters are not. we have a feeder set up on a sendero that we can shoot hogs out to 1000yds
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Then I would be looking at heavy Bergers and Matchkings.
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the ABs shoot better out of my 700p than the SMKs haven't tryed the bergers yet but i do plan on it
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I played around with the 240gr match kings in my rum and they shot pretty good. Recoil was a bit brisk..
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i wouldn't use a bullet that weigh less than 200gr in my rum i shoot 200gr AB at 3200 fps or 210gr wildcats a tad slower .you lose the advantage the rum gives you when you use lighter bullets,at longer ranges Exactly the big cases really shine with the big heavy bullets. My 270 Allen shooting the 195 wildcats with a BC of .8 at 3100fps kicks some serious a$$ makes my 300 wby look a little sick shooting 200 AB at 3120fps
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[/quote] we have a feeder set up on a sendero that we can shoot hogs out to 1000yds [/quote] That would be a hoot... 
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