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Not necessarily. For the point and shoot hunter, those few inches of trajectory and wind drift might be the difference between a kill shoot and a horrible flesh wound and tracking job.

The question is, are you willing to put up with more recoil, powder consumption, muzzle blast, etc. in exchange for the small gains in performance. I am...you may not be...and that's quite ok.

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Originally Posted by vapodog
If you couldn't kill the elk with the .280 then you couldn't kill it with the 7MM Rem Mag either.

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You're a bad, bad man. grin

What the hell's an RMEF?


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Originally Posted by Winchester_69


What the hell's an RMEF?

Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation!

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Thank you, sir. I never would have put that together.


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Me too.

I love the 280 but why leave trajectory on the table - if you can handle both the same?


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The RMEF is definitely not a REMF. LOL.


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For me, an inch and a half difference at 300 yards with the same bullets is pretty small. To each his own though and as said....that's ok.

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Point taken.

Come on though - I need to justify my 7mmedness-looneyism some way wink


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I'm no gun writer, but if the .270 is too light for mule deer, ain't no way someone should use the .280 on elk.

I mean, really, why don't you just use a BB gun.


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Originally Posted by bwinters

Come on though - I need to justify my 7mmedness-looneyism some way wink


I don't think any of us need justification for our firearm looneyism's. grin

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Originally Posted by june6th1944
I'm no gun writer, but if the .270 is too light for mule deer, ain't no way someone should use the .280 on elk.

I mean, really, why don't you just use a BB gun.


Who the hell said a 270 with 150 grain Partitions was too "light" for Mulies? If he (or she) would like to debate that one on the 'fire, his backside better be made of asbestos.

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Who the hell said a 270 with 150 grain Partitions was too "light" for Mulies? If he (or she) would like to debate that one on the 'fire, his backside better be made of asbestos.

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Lee J. Hoots did in one of his masterpieces in Successful Hunter.

Check the campfire for previous discussions.


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I think that comment might have come from Lee J. Hoots in a recent magazine aricle, whoever he is. I think his backside is still pretty warm from that one.


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Originally Posted by dogzapper

I've never had a problem killing elk with the .280 Remington. Load the 139-grain Hornady Interlocked or, if you are really a pessimist, the 154 Hornady Interlocked and you're good to go.

They simply fall off the canyon wall ... most sincerely DEAD.

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I about dropped my jaw on the table - are you sure you didn't mean to post the .280 Remington AI???? grin


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With a premium bullet, the 280 Rem. is good for elk. I talked with an elk guide who swore by the 270 Winchester.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Not necessarily. For the point and shoot hunter, those few inches of trajectory and wind drift might be the difference between a kill shoot and a horrible flesh wound and tracking job.

While this is theoretically possible it's a two way street.....the advantage can favor either cartridge.

If one learns to shoot and knows his limitations the difference is negligible.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
The 280 is the ballistic twin of the 270 Win
MM

While I generally agree here the twins end at (roughly) 150 grain bullets.....then one can use 175 grains in the .280.......and as far as I can tell he is forced to handload if he wants a 160 grainer in the .270.

Not everyone is a fan of the .270 for elk but the .280 crowd has the decided advantage in the heavier bullets. IMO this is real and worthy.

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