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#3139753 - 07/03/09 06:19 PM Muzzleloader in Idaho
billd Offline
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Loc: Idaho
I am thinking about getting into muzzleloading.

I live in Idaho, and there are certain restrictions on what weapons can be used.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a legal muzzleloader that can used during muzzleloading season ?

Any help will be appreciated.

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#3139958 - 07/03/09 09:05 PM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: billd]
HaYen Offline
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Loc: Arizona
In a nutshell, for Muzzleloading Season, Idaho is a Traditional Weapon state.

No Scopes, pelletized powder, Sabots, ML Shotgun, and the ignition system must be exposed. 209 Primers are not allowed.

Some options are:

The TC Fire Storm
A Hawken
A Mountain Rifle
Lyamn puts out an inexpensive rifle and you can check out the custom builders here.
If your really handy you can build your own. Check out Track of the Wolf or Dixie Gun Works

Below is more detail about ML in Idaho. Finally, there are many wonderful people around the campfire like DWC5050 from around you parts.

Have a great day and a safe 4th!!!

HaYen


For muzzleloader-only season,

You must have in your possission a license with
a muzzleloader permit.

For elk, moose, bighorn sheep, mountain goat or black bear, .50 caliber or larger

For deer, pronghorn, or mountain lion, .45 caliber or larger.

Capable of being loaded only from the muzzle.

Equipped with only open or peep sights. Except hunters with a visual disability may apply for a permit to use nonmagnifying
scopes.

Loaded only with loose black powder or BP substitute. No Pellets.

May have single or double-barrel

Loaded with a projectile that is within .010 inch of the
bore diameter. Sabots are prohibited.

Loaded with a patched round ball or conical non-jacketed
projectile comprised wholly of lead or lead alloy.

Equipped only with a flint, percussion cap or musket cap.
209 primers are prohibited.

Equipped with an ignition system in which any portion
of the cap is exposed or visible when the weapon is
cocked and ready to fire.
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#3140001 - 07/03/09 09:29 PM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: HaYen]
HaYen Offline
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#3140313 - 07/04/09 07:01 AM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: HaYen]
billd Offline
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Registered: 08/25/02
Posts: 187
Loc: Idaho
i thought that the rules had been changed to now allow some inline muzzleloaders.

Thanks for your help.

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#3141267 - 07/04/09 05:31 PM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: billd]
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Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: billd
i thought that the rules had been changed to now allow some inline muzzleloaders.

Thanks for your help.



I also live in Idaho
the rule that was dropped was the exposed pivoting hammer rule
Also the traditional only hunts were dropped “Most of them anyway”
However what also happened is that depending on where you live , a lot of the hunts are draw/ permit only . In other words you draw a tag for that area and it’s the only hunt you get for that species .
Now North Idaho still has some general hunts . But whats holding those is white tail . But those may also be endanger ..
Right now the commission is looking at allowing pistols , which has never been done before .

So it depends on where you live and what your wanting to shoot .
If it has an open ignition ,
Uses only BP or a synthetic replacement “NOT SMOKLESS”
Then its legal
Putting a scope on “ unless your handicap which is legal with a waver from the director”
Shooting sabots , core locks , jacketed bullets “Power belts are legal “
, or using 209 primers makes you illegal
BUT<<<<
if you want to use it in the main general anyweapon season , then you can use what you like , soabots , scopes , 209, smokless , what ever you like .
the muzzleloading rules only apply for those hunts designated as muzzleloading ONLY


Edited by captchee (07/04/09 05:49 PM)

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#3143982 - 07/06/09 09:34 AM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: captchee]
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 448
Loc: Boise, Idaho
billd,

You are correct in that SOME in-lines are allowed in Idaho. The issue with MOST in-line muzzleloaders (MZ) in Idaho is the need for an "exposed" primer, and the type of primer used. As mentioned, a 209 primer is NOT allowed in Idaho and MOST in-line MZs come equipped with the 209. Some 209 in-lines can be changed to a No. 11 ignition system by swapping out the breech plugs to make them legal. I won't bore everyone here with what those are, but if you want to PM me I'll be happy to provide a couple of examples.

HaYen gave you some good options, and I'd add a couple of options to that list for you. In my humble opinion, the Knight Bighorn is the gold standard for MZs in Idaho. You CAN'T go wrong with this particular firearm from what I gather, and two of us used that particular model last year to take our first elk with a MZ. They are easy to clean, widely available, and terrifically accurate.

Another good option (by most reviews) that I'm going to try this year is the Traditions Pursuit LW "West" edition. I don't know that they are and BETTER than the Bighorn, but they're different and I'm a gear junkie that likes to try new things when my budget allows it. I'll have a more complete review of this rifle after I've recieved it and shot a few times, but I'm confident on the reviews I've read on it that it will serve me well.

I hope I've been able to help fill in some of the blanks for you.

HaYen,

Thanks for the kind words brother, though I'm not sure what I've done to deserve them.

Dave
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#3144050 - 07/06/09 10:04 AM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: iddave]
HaYen Offline
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Posts: 570
Loc: Arizona
Originally Posted By: dwc5050

HaYen,

Thanks for the kind words brother, though I'm not sure what I've done to deserve them.

Dave

You're a Camp Fire Member!!!!!
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#3144116 - 07/06/09 11:16 AM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: HaYen]
iddave Online   content
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Registered: 01/10/07
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Loc: Boise, Idaho
HaYen,

I suppose that is a good start isn't it.
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#3145418 - 07/08/09 11:55 AM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: iddave]
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#3147305 - 07/10/09 10:37 PM Re: Muzzleloader in Idaho [Re: Underclocked]
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Registered: 08/03/06
Posts: 594
Loc: Mckenzie River, OR
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