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#3249335 - 08/23/09 09:35 AM How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets?
jimmyp Offline
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We are considering building a range on our new hunting lease and were wondering if we could get a thicker sheet of steel maybe 30 x 30 inches or so and set it on a 30 degree angle to direct bullets into the ground, how thick would it have to be to stop anything from a 300WM on down from say 25 yards on out? I have never shot steel except my fathers barbacue pit which was 1/4 mild steel and my 222 remington shot right thru it at 50 yards and dinged the far side. My Dad dinged me of course for this stunt...so the question...how thick?
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#3249405 - 08/23/09 10:11 AM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: jimmyp]
JohnMoses Offline
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Jimmy,

I don't shoot at steel any closer than 200 yds with a jacketed bullet in any caliber, this means .17 and up. It's very dangerous to get closer than that. So please don't do it.

25 yds is ok for low velocity lead bullets. NO JACKETED BULLETS & nothing over 1000 fps.

Some recommend shooting at steel with jacketed rifle bullets no closer than 300yds.

We used 3/4" T1 steel. It doesn't pit or cup, so it won't throw a bullet back at you or into the wild blue yonder.

It's expensive, my sizes are 6x6" @ 200. 10x10 @ 300 and 12x12" @ 400 yds.

Smallish but will make you a better marksman.

Be safe,

JM.


Edited by JohnMoses (08/23/09 10:28 AM)
Edit Reason: cant remember thickness
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#3249455 - 08/23/09 10:40 AM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: JohnMoses]
Taconic11 Offline
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Good advise.

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#3249512 - 08/23/09 11:08 AM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: Taconic11]
warpig602 Offline
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Registered: 08/09/09
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We have steel plate matches here once a week at ranges of sometimes 15 yards. When I used to help with the qualifications for the local PD years ago they would shoot steel even closer than that with FMJ ammo. I would say haveing non pitted steel would be more of a concern than the distance. Just my .02

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#3249657 - 08/23/09 12:37 PM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: warpig602]
stillbeeman Offline
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At my club in XX, we had a Dr shoot himself in the hand while rapid firing a pistol at a swinging target at 15 yards. Don't know what sort of bullet he was using.


Edited by stillbeeman (08/23/09 12:38 PM)
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#3249666 - 08/23/09 12:41 PM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: warpig602]
jpb Offline
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Originally Posted By: warpig602
We have steel plate matches here once a week at ranges of sometimes 15 yards. When I used to help with the qualifications for the local PD years ago they would shoot steel even closer than that with FMJ ammo. I would say haveing non pitted steel would be more of a concern than the distance. Just my .02

The original poster was asking about rifles (300 Win Mag) if I understand it correctly. Not pistols...

But I have been wrong before! smile

John

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#3249670 - 08/23/09 12:43 PM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: stillbeeman]
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ricochet injury

It happens.

Hi Jpb,

Having shot steel in 3 gun matches for years I wanted to bring up the fact that pistol as well as rifle ammo can cause deadly ricochets.

The short distance he stated was too close to shoot anything safely using a rifle or pistol non frangible jacketed bullet.

If i had just said don't shoot it with a 300 mag and he or someone else shot it with a 223 or a pistol using the wrong ammo and got hurt I'd feel bad for not explaining dangers of using any type of firearm with non frangible jacketed bullets at close range.

Best,

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#3249684 - 08/23/09 12:52 PM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: jimmyp]
jimdgc Offline
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Registered: 06/26/05
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Loc: North TX
We recently rebuilt our range using steel baffles. AR500 steel 1/2" thick will stop a .470 NE 500 gr. solid at 10 ft. We had it tested at White Laboratories. Setting the steel at an angle with a sand pit under it should work. We have 2" of recycled rubber bonded to ours. The steel and rubber can be purchased from Range Systems.

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#3249799 - 08/23/09 02:17 PM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: jpb]
warpig602 Offline
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Originally Posted By: jpb
Originally Posted By: warpig602
We have steel plate matches here once a week at ranges of sometimes 15 yards. When I used to help with the qualifications for the local PD years ago they would shoot steel even closer than that with FMJ ammo. I would say haveing non pitted steel would be more of a concern than the distance. Just my .02

The original poster was asking about rifles (300 Win Mag) if I understand it correctly. Not pistols...

But I have been wrong before! smile

John


Indeed, I was responding to the gentleman who was givng his opinion on safe distances. Accidents can happen at any range, I guess it's up to you how much of a risk you're willing to take. I can say I have never seen an accident at close range but that doesnt mean they dont happen. Just the same i'm sure accidents are possible from 200 yards away.


Edited by warpig602 (08/23/09 02:17 PM)

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#3250210 - 08/23/09 04:51 PM Re: How thick of a plate of steel to stop hunting rifle bullets? [Re: jimdgc]
jimmyp Offline
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Registered: 11/28/03
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Loc: Georgia
Originally Posted By: jimdgc
We recently rebuilt our range using steel baffles. AR500 steel 1/2" thick will stop a .470 NE 500 gr. solid at 10 ft. We had it tested at White Laboratories. Setting the steel at an angle with a sand pit under it should work. We have 2" of recycled rubber bonded to ours. The steel and rubber can be purchased from Range Systems.

this is what we are going to do. Angle the plate by 30-35 degrees down so the bullets go down into a sand pit. A 1 inch thick by 36" x 36" width/lenght plate is 400 pounds, I would surely rather have to deal with 1/2 plate at 200
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