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Originally Posted by firstcoueswas80
Tube has 280 rounds through it, 25 1/4" #5 Shilen.



Did you ever call them about the problem? I'm sure it will work if you want to keep toying with it, but it's just a band aide when you really need stitches. IMO, after spending coin on a custom, there should be NO need for a donut.

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For 20 bucks cutting a group in half seems like an excellent deal.


The point being something is amiss with the rifle/loads/scope. A problem free rifle/scope with a #5 barrel and good loads should shoot into well under an inch without a big rubber dong hanging on it.


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Mathman and CLB's points are squarely on point.With a good Shilen tube,a properly assembled rifle should not need the bandaid.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The gun does not HAVE to have the donut on. It will actually shoot TSX's at/under an inch with out it.

And, to pour salt on the wound the guys who built the gun are out of business. Bottom line is the gun does shoot. Granted, with a crutch but it does.

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Originally Posted by firstcoueswas80
The gun does not HAVE to have the donut on. It will actually shoot TSX's at/under an inch with out it.



Might be time to divorce the VLD's if that's the case. Other than the VLD,s and TSX what else have you tried?

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How is that gun bedded? If it need some dampening, I'd be more inclined to look at the stock....


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first: I see; have you tried the Accubonds?Pretty accurate, flat shooting bullet.Could be it just doesn't like the Berger.

You may not need it after all.... wink




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yeah, it has shot every bullet I have put through it right around an inch. Between .75 and one inch. VLD's Tsx, TTSX, Accubonds. All have shot about the same.

Gun is pillar and glass bedded. Barrel was bedded as well, with tape ( I forgot how thick the tape was) wrapped around the barrel creating a floated barrel.

Why would I divorce the VLD's? They shoot well with the donut, and knock the dog snot out of the coues.

Just ask this bad boy that died at 571 yards. He didnt like them.

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Originally Posted by firstcoueswas80
Barrel was bedded as well, with tape ( I forgot how thick the tape was) wrapped around the barrel creating a floated barrel.


Huh?...

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The smith wrapped tape, like thick tape around the barrel. Bedded the entire stock. When he sank the barrel and action in, The tape on the barrel created space so the barrel area is bedded, but the barrel actually floats.

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That's a new one on me.

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I tend to bed the action so it's floating. I find no contact between action and stock really helps.


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I think you're sayin' that he held the barrel floated in the channel while he was bedding it by wrapping tape around it. Then removed the tape after it was free floated. You may wanna consider putting a pressure point in the barrel channel as it sounds like your barrel may want a little pressure. Try putting some temporary pressure under the barrel towards the end of the barrel channel and see how it shoots. If it shoots well that way you can run a little pad of bedding under the barrel in the channel and create a permanent pressure point. That will likely let you get rid of the barrel condom and still keep your accuracy.


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Originally Posted by firstcoueswas80
The smith wrapped tape, like thick tape around the barrel. Bedded the entire stock. When he sank the barrel and action in, The tape on the barrel created space so the barrel area is bedded, but the barrel actually floats.


Sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. Not sure if something is being lost in translation, but one doesn't bed the barrel so it floats. I'm assuming he removed the tape from the barrel?

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Greatwapiti take a look at Northern Daves sticky on Glass bedding an action...I think thats what he meant.
The action is bedded the barrel floats above the channel....after the tape is removed.


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Can you get one of them with a built in compass?


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Can you get one of them with a built in compass?
Money can buy you anything.


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'cause I was thinking that if'n you had one of them, with a compass, a muzzle brake and see through scope mounts, a feller'd be 'bout set.


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Now that was tacky! Funny but still tacky. I do agree that a pressure point and a change in bullets might be in order.

Why did you shoot that deer at 571 yards. Was that how far it was to the road or don't you know how to stalk?


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