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What would be the best long range lightweight rifle caliber? 270WSM looks good but will it be around in the future? 270 Win also looks good but is it worth the extra weight? 7mm Rem is it to much recoil in a lightweight gun? I am planning to build a lightweight sheep and goat rifle and looking for the best caliber.

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I think a 7mm08 would be sweet.


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That was my first idea but after reading about long range shots I started thinking I need somthing flatter shooting. Am I wrong? I do not have a lot of long range shooting experence. 200 yards has been max for me. I am looking for advice from all of you long range shooters!

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I've been in on a few goat killings and don't remember one being shot further than 175 yards or so. Sure you can purposely setup for a longer shot but it usually ain't needed.

If you feel real frisky get an elevation turret slapped on and practice at some distances.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I think a 7mm08 would be sweet.


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Another vote for the 7-08


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Great choices so far. Nothing wrong with a cartridge you might already have for deer like a 270 or 280.

My own choices are the 6.5-284 for sheep and a very light 300WSM for goat. But the 6.5-284 is perfectly fine for both IMHO.


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I'm voting for the .280

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270 wsm w/ 21" barrel w/ 140's

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For the longest time, I've thought a good answer to this question would be a NULA in 6.5X284.

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Your going to carry that rifle alot more than you are going to shoot it. I'd want somthing that I could change to a bit heavier round in the event it was needed.

Hence, Model 70 Classic Short Action in .308 using a good 140 grain bullet. And load up a few 180 grain Nosler Partitions or other good bullet in the event you need them.

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If you are really concerned about weight, and I think you should be, I'd worry about long range capabilities of the rifle last.
I'd build something that I could shoot well first.
Rounds like the 7-08 or the 7X57 kill very well out to 400 yds. If you build something with more recoil than that, you may well find that it is tough to shoot well, not at all fun.
6.5 lb. '06's I find to be a bit much, even from off hand. From prone, or over a pack, they wouldn't be anything I'd want to shoot much.
So, I suggest you try out a few in these weights. Once you learn what works for you, then go for a build. E

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Ok 7mm08 it is. Now custom turret, how do they work? I have never used them.

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contact Leupold's custom shop and they can work it all out with you. i believe that they also have custom reticles that you can have put on your scope if you know what your average velocity is for the load you use, and the average altitude where you will be hunting. Leupold is a great outfit to work with. they are well built, and reasonably priced in their custom stuff.


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i just had Leupold put an M1 elevation turret on. zero at 100, and shoot to 500 or so. record the bullet drop. then plug your bullet and estimated velocity into JBM Ballistics and tweak velocity until it matches your true bullet drop. then print a range card and tape it to your stock (and carry a spare in your pack). This system is not as slick as a BDC retical or knob, but it allows you to change bullets and/or velocity with nothing more than a trip to the shooting range and a new range card from JBM

my 7mm-08 is the lower rifle in this pic.

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As stated the 7mm-08 is a good one for sure. My next choice would be a 280Rem.


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Get whatever Leupold you like, send it off to them for an elevation turret, I'd go Target Turret (they have the screw on cap, just like a regular only taller).

Get it all together and we'll walk you through the turret stuff.

Turret is number 1 through 15 (15 is actually the zero again).

Anyways, get the BC of the bullet and the velocity and plug it into a ballistics program and it will give you drops out to say 1000 yards.

Here we go: 120gr Barnes TSX BC .411 velocity 3000 with a 200 yard zero, puts the bullet 1.5" high at 100.

Drop at 250 is 2.6 inches

Drop at 300 is 6 3/4"

Drop at 350 is 12.5"

Drop at 400 is 20"

Move the decimal point on the yardage two to the left and divide that number into the how much the bullet drops at that range.

So 250 yards becomes 2.5. Divide 2.5 into 2.6 so that gives you 1MOA. You don't need to count clicks just turn your turret to 1 and you are dead nuts on. Assuming 1/4 clicks you will have 3 hash marks between each whole number.

Again, 300 yards becomes 3. Divide 6 3/4" by 3 and you get 2 1/4MOA. Turn your turret to the first little hash past the number 2 and so on and so forth.

I also have a program that will spit out the MOA values in a neat little sheet that you can print out and tape to your stock, no math needed.


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