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I have shot three boxes of them thru my .45-70 Guide Gun and my H&R Handi Rifle. Never had a misfire. I have also reloaded about 30 of the Hornady brass and am still shooting them in my Handi Rifle, still with no problems...
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I also noticed the rim was about 1/2 the thickness of the Remington, Winchester, and Starline brass. This might be the principal clue to the observed misfire problems. SAAMI spec for 45-70 rim thickness is 0.070 inches. What is the rim thickness of the Hornady brass giving the misfires? What is the rim thickness of the Rem, Win, etc. brass that does not misfire? --Bob
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Hello folks, I just joined this forum as a result of a google search under the keywords " Hornady leverevolution misfires". I bought 10 boxes of this ammo in 30-30 caliber from Wrigley Sales (Internet order). I went to an indoor range last night to get my son's hunting rifle sighted in. It is a Marlin 336CS. I had just fired some Federal ammo though this rifle a few weeks ago without incident. The first round misfired. I extracted the round and found a dimpled primer from the firing pin strike. The next 4 rounds also misfired! They all had dimpled primers. I put the ammo away after that. What is happening? I am going to replace the firing pin just to be sure. But I don't think it's the firing pin. Have you folks gotten any defintive answers about this ammo? Thanks, John going ponehhgj: I love these bullets. My son shoots them in his 45-70 and they have performed well.
I talked a pard into getting and H&R 45-70 Handi Rifle because of the good luck we had with Ryan's.
We went to the range today and had about 5 misfires out of one box of the 325 Gr. LeverEvolution ammo.
Has anyone else experienced this? The hammer spring seems to be of sufficient strength to detonate any primer made.
However, the firing pin indentions did look weak on the ones that failed to fire. Looked good on the rest. I'm wondering if it's a primer problem or the gun.
If anybody has had this happen I'd like to hear.
JM
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Hi Johnny,
My answer is I'm not using it anymore.
Welcome to the Fire!
Best,
JM.
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SAAMI spec for 45-70 rim thickness is 0.070 inches. What is the rim thickness of the Hornady brass giving the misfires? What is the rim thickness of the Rem, Win, etc. brass that does not misfire? For any of the misfiring 30-30 or 45-70 Hornady cartridges, has anybody measured the rim thickness? Still curious. --Bob
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Thanks for the reply. Since I'm new here I'm trying to find out from the "regulars" on this forum if there have been other threads or discussions about problems with this ammo? What are others saying? Any links to other threads? John Hi Johnny,
My answer is I'm not using it anymore.
Welcome to the Fire!
Best,
JM.
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John,
I meant I'm not using the ammo anymore. The problem appeared to be thick rims and/or bad primers.
It usually occured in single shots, with lever guns like yours only experiencing a few misfires according to all the posts.
I am not aware of any other threads on this. I got alot of my info from Sporting Goods stores who have had to make good on the ammo that was returned to them.
The problem may have been corrected, with a few bad lots of the ammo still in inventory being sold by retailers.
Call your Sporting Goods store where you bought the ammo and ask if they have had problems in the past.
JM.
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I have a stainless No. 1 in 45-70 that loves the LeverEvolution ammo. Shoots clover leafs for me at 100 yards and never misfires. However I do all of my reloads in Winchester brass.
I also have Marlin 336s in 30-30 and 35 Rem. They both shoot well with the new Hornady ammo but I prefer more traditional loadings for these rifles since I rarely shoot them past 100 yards or so.
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I have no experience with Hornady LeveRevolution but the Federal Power-Shok 300gr SP performs really well in my Marlin.
IIRC, it's loaded with a Speer Hot-core bullet too.....
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SAAMI spec for 45-70 rim thickness is 0.070 inches. What is the rim thickness of the Hornady brass giving the misfires? What is the rim thickness of the Rem, Win, etc. brass that does not misfire? For any of the misfiring 30-30 or 45-70 Hornady cartridges, has anybody measured the rim thickness? Still curious. --Bob I swear I measured and posted my results like 2-3 days ago, but here goes again. Black Hills: .066, .065, .066 Federal: .067, .066, .065 Remington: .065, .068, .064 Hornady: .064, .068, .067 I grabbed 3 random cases out of my sorted brass and measured each one in 3-4 places and posted the average.
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