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California has gotta be the place, no doubt about it.
Thirty-seven million plus, something has just gotta to be a special attractant there.
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You might want to check out the Black Hills area of SD. 2 species of deer, elk, Mt. Lion, grouse, prairie dogs and fine trout fishing in the streams and lakes. Drive a little and shoot pheasants, more grouse, ducks and geese, catch walleye and salmon in the Missouri river. The employment scene is what you make of it. Good folks, no income taxes. Banana Belt weather with some great chinooks warming up the area. Snow for skiing and snowmobiling, too. Shutup , dammitt............
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I like the Black Hills, too. But, isn't it a hard draw even for residents?
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I've been in WY for 10 years and like it, but it is no paradise. You have to look at where the capital of the state is and how that is going. As the capital goes so goes the rest of the state.
All the southern CA libs moved to Denver and F#@ked up that whole state. Now the libs can't stand what they made and are moving to Cheyenne. Once they take over the politcs of Cheyenne I will be forced to live under their rules even though I am 450 miles away. I share your concerns. The bad economy is kind of a blessing in that regard because a lot of the people who were moving here were "equity immigrants" who cashed out in high end states. With the real estate crash, there are less potential immigrants these days. We also see people from places like coastal areas of California who move into a nice house in the country during the summer, then experience climate shock when winter rolls around. Some of these people are looking to move within 2-3 years We actually need more people who think like us to move here, and we can hold on to our lifestyle for longer. Aside from the potential downside, we really like it here and will stay as long as encroachment in the form of liberal politics or crime does not become a problem. Our playground in the mountains is hour and a half away. Hunting seasons are too short compated to the south, but the variety of species allows us to string along different seasons and get something approaching two and a half months if we bowhunt. We don't get into snowmobiling, but there is a long season for that. There is no income tax, sales taxes are reasonable, property taxes are reasonable, and the state will pay for a good chunk of residents' college tuition at UW. Living in the southern part of the state, if we just have to have a big city fix, we are 45 minutes from Fort Collins and an hour and a half from Denver. When we have to go somewhere, we fly out of Denver International Airport.
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"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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yeah , elk are a tuff draw .
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You might want to check out the Black Hills area of SD. 2 species of deer, elk, Mt. Lion, grouse, prairie dogs and fine trout fishing in the streams and lakes. Drive a little and shoot pheasants, more grouse, ducks and geese, catch walleye and salmon in the Missouri river. The employment scene is what you make of it. Good folks, no income taxes. Banana Belt weather with some great chinooks warming up the area. Snow for skiing and snowmobiling, too. Shutup , dammitt............ Ya beat me to it... Stay the heck outta SD.. It really sux.. No one would wanna live there, uh, no one.... Windy, dry, no roads, no people - it really sux.. Ignore my sig.. Wife's makin' me do it.. yada yada yada..
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Virginia or Tennessee they are both West of DC
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A place with good hunting has no economy.
Name your poison.
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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remington79 You must be new to Idaho. The snow plowing is way better then it used to be.
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I've been in WY for 10 years and like it, but it is no paradise. You have to look at where the capital of the state is and how that is going. As the capital goes so goes the rest of the state.
All the southern CA libs moved to Denver and F#@ked up that whole state. Now the libs can't stand what they made and are moving to Cheyenne. Once they take over the politcs of Cheyenne I will be forced to live under their rules even though I am 450 miles away. I share your concerns. The bad economy is kind of a blessing in that regard because a lot of the people who were moving here were "equity immigrants" who cashed out in high end states. With the real estate crash, there are less potential immigrants these days. We also see people from places like coastal areas of California who move into a nice house in the country during the summer, then experience climate shock when winter rolls around. Some of these people are looking to move within 2-3 years We actually need more people who think like us to move here, and we can hold on to our lifestyle for longer. Aside from the potential downside, we really like it here and will stay as long as encroachment in the form of liberal politics or crime does not become a problem. Our playground in the mountains is hour and a half away. Hunting seasons are too short compated to the south, but the variety of species allows us to string along different seasons and get something approaching two and a half months if we bowhunt. We don't get into snowmobiling, but there is a long season for that. There is no income tax, sales taxes are reasonable, property taxes are reasonable, and the state will pay for a good chunk of residents' college tuition at UW. Living in the southern part of the state, if we just have to have a big city fix, we are 45 minutes from Fort Collins and an hour and a half from Denver. When we have to go somewhere, we fly out of Denver International Airport. Perhaps this will be a cleansing winter........ 
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remington79 You must be new to Idaho. The snow plowing is way better then it used to be. Ya want good snow plowing??? Come, all ye faithful, to TAX HELL WISCONSIN. Six flakes of snow touch the ground and the squadron of salt trucks, idling on 'plus-five', scream out of the shops - boxes up, salt a-shakin and sparks comin' from the plow blades to ensure not a FLAKE OF SNOW remains anywhere between the ditch lines.. It just pizzes me off.. No wonder people have no idea how to drive in winter anymore because we're not ALLOWED to drive in winter conditions here.. 
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I've been in WY for 10 years and like it, but it is no paradise. You have to look at where the capital of the state is and how that is going. As the capital goes so goes the rest of the state.
All the southern CA libs moved to Denver and F#@ked up that whole state. Now the libs can't stand what they made and are moving to Cheyenne. Once they take over the politcs of Cheyenne I will be forced to live under their rules even though I am 450 miles away.
The northern CA libs moved to Olympia/Seattle and Salem/Portland and hence even the people on Spokane and Bend have to live by the stupid philosophy of the capital city.
ID is getting ruined by $$$ form the libs in CA and AZ.
AZ is behind enemy lines because we won't secure our southern border.
NM is bordering on third world status.
NV would be a possible option but I'm guessing CA libs are moving to Carson City so it won't take long and NV will be like CO.
UT has a lot of people. If you are not connected in the LDS church - good luck.
MT looks promising especially with their "in your face" governor. Finally a polititian that knows what the 10th admendment means.
NE - too flat.
TX/OK - I don't consider western states. Besides if you don't speak spanish - good luck!
Looks like you are left with ND, MT, NV and in that order. I've never been to AK so my opinion would be worthless. When WY gets like CO - I may head to AK. You forgot Kansas.
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I like the Black Hills, too. But, isn't it a hard draw even for residents? This year there were left over elk licenses after the first draw. They all went away in the 2nd draw. Probably cow tags, but still probably not as tough a draw as WY-MT units. Non-residents are not allowed to hunt elk in SD outside of the reservations. From the GFP page: 2009 Leftover Elk Licenses The 2nd draw for elk has been completed and there are no leftover tags for the 2009 season.
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The Idaho Panhandle beautiful country anywhere from Moscow North. Parts of Idaho North and East of Spokane are a bedroom community for Spokane with world class hunting and fishing and in most cases it doesn't get to hot in the summer or to cold in the winter. All you have to do is cross the border into the Spokane area and employment prospects are good and at livable wages. If you want Salt water fishing Puget Sound is Six Hours away and the Washington/Oregon Coast another three to four hours away.
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I've been here for about 2 years BlueDuck. I find Hayden and Dalton Gardens is much more on top of the game than CDA. My wife and I moved up here about 2 years ago from Texas. I grew up in Northwest CT (yes its actually rural and the only red county in the state) so I have seen some winters. I just have to laugh when I hear on the news that theres 4-5 inches of snow on the ground and everyone is calling for a snow day. Growing up 4-5 inches of snow on the ground meant a 60 minute or 90 minute delay. I find the winters here mild compared to what I grew up with.
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One of the gun rags (maybe Outdoor Life) says Lewiston, Id is the #1 place to be. If you bring a job with you there is probably a niche, home of Speer/Blount/etc... good fishing at the door in the Snake & Clearwater, hunting just out of town, waterfowel, big game, AND it is a seaport @ about 800 ft above sea level. warmer too.
If I wasn't here I'd be somewhere around there for a base of operations.
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I would have said Montana but they just passed a moritorium on any new arrivals. I think I was the last one through the door
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