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#3467922 - 11/10/09 11:31 AM Has anyone used the 243 for black bear?
Scorpion Offline
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I'm just curious if anyone has used the 243, with good or bad results, for black bear. I know that there may be better choices, but with a good bullet like a TSX, I don't see it having any issues with a black bear. The main reason I'm asking is I had a guy claim that 6mm and .257 caliber cartridges are good for only "stinging" bears. It's obvious he is clueless on the .25 cal stuff, as I've seen plenty here prove otherwise. I don't have a dog in this fight, just would like some feedback from those much more experienced than myself.

So, anyone who has used the 243 on blackies, your input would be greatly appreciated.

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#3467935 - 11/10/09 11:37 AM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: Scorpion]
Mule Deer Offline
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I haven't used the .243 myself on a black bear, but know several people that have, or used similar cartridges. One New York friend killed a nice black bear in the Adirondacks with a .250 Savage and the 100-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, which a lot of people wouldn't consider a bear bullet. One shot in the heart-lung area put it down pronto though.
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#3467939 - 11/10/09 11:38 AM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: Scorpion]
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Registered: 11/26/01
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The problem is not that it won't kill a bear, it will. The biggest problem is that bears don't always go down on the spot and are difficult to track without a good blood trail. Their soft feet really don't stir things up much so unless there is snow it's hard to follow foot prints. They have very long hair and a lot of fat which clogs up the bullet wound quickly. In short: big diameter bullet equals good blood trail, small diameter bullet equals difficult if not impossible tracking situation. Make sense?
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#3467947 - 11/10/09 11:41 AM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: Scorpion]
Boise Offline
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Registered: 02/05/01
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Loc: Rapid City, SD, US
I've shot two Idaho black bears with a .243 using the Barnes 85 gr. X bullet. Both were one shot kills, both bullets passed through the front shoulders on relatively close shots. Neither bear traveled very far but the one rolled a fair number of feet down a steep grade.

One bear was fairly young, I'm not very good at judging bears. The second was aged as a 13 year old dry sow.

I believe a .243 is too light for bear hunting. I was carrying the .243 while hunting varmints and stumbled upon the blackies, waited for a perfect broadside and too the shot from a rest.

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#3468020 - 11/10/09 12:27 PM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: Boise]
bigsqueeze Offline
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The 243 will kill black bears and sting the big dangerous bears.

Maybe this guy got his bears mixed up??

The 243 with a good bullet, is a very capable black bear killer. The 25s even more so.

Next time you see this guy, make a gentlemenly wager to him that your 243 (if you have one), or your 25 cal, will kill black bears with one well placed shot everytime. Say a grand or two per black bear?

If I were using a 243 on a wager for the black bears and someone were betting against me, I`d load me up some "classified super secret" 115 gr Berger hunting VLDs and then double the bet!!!

I`d really like to see the blackies walk away from those with that kind of,,,,,, "stinging only?",,,,, wound channel.
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#3468043 - 11/10/09 12:38 PM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: bigsqueeze]
Scorpion Offline
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Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 4698
Loc: Appalachian Basin
bigsqueeze,

If I were a betting man, and had a 243 I might make such a wager. Like I said, I've really no dog in this fight, as I normally hunt a 260, 7mm-08, or 280. Was just curious if some of the guys here had used it on black bears.

Thanks everyone for the responses.

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#3468084 - 11/10/09 12:58 PM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: Scorpion]
bigsqueeze Offline
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Oh! I forgot to mention that I do have a friend who owns a 243, whom on more than one occasion has used it on the blackies with very good results.

However, I have never personally used a 243 for B/Bears.
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#3468093 - 11/10/09 01:02 PM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: bigsqueeze]
cdhunt Offline
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Registered: 10/16/03
Posts: 1633
are you nuts?

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#3468228 - 11/10/09 01:57 PM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: Scorpion]
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Registered: 09/27/08
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My cousin killed one that was about 250# with a 100 gr Sierra. It worked very well on that sample of 1.

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#3468280 - 11/10/09 02:14 PM Re: Has anyone used the 243 for black bear? [Re: cdhunt]
bigsqueeze Offline
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Registered: 01/04/09
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Loc: So Cal
Originally Posted By: cdhunt
are you nuts?
.......You bet! I`m really nuts!........Don`t have a 243, so I just put up with a 300 WSM for my black bear use.
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