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#3534305 - 12/02/09 09:04 PM What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth
shrapnel Offline
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I saw this on Gunbroker, wanted it and wonder...What is it really worth? It is a 24,000 serial number range and in near mint condition. 22 Hornet, 24 inch barrel.


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#3534542 - 12/03/09 02:52 AM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: shrapnel]
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All of those Model 70 Hornets I see for sale have asking prices that are Ludicrous. $3200 and higher.
Last year I bought a Model 54 Hornet and paid $1300 for it on auction on GunBroker. It's in immaculate condition too.

Edit to add: I saw one for sale not long ago, and the price was $4995.:((((


Edited by DMB (12/03/09 03:54 AM)
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#3534667 - 12/03/09 05:10 AM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: DMB]
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I sold a 4 digit SN Hornet, with a Lyman Targetspot scope, in 1995 for $1600.00. Looks like it has doubled in value.

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#3535107 - 12/03/09 07:47 AM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: shrapnel]
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Shrapnel: Even with the missing rear sight on that pre-war Model 70 Hornet - it IS still worth a LOT of money!
"IF" there are no extra holes in the receiver and "IF" the barrel has NOT been "K'ed" out and it IS near mint like you describe AND I owned it I would not even consider selling it for less than $3,750.00!
The first pre-64 Winchester Model 70 I "collected" was a post war 22 Hornet and I paid $125.00 for it - it IS a minty Rifle and I turned down an offer twenty times the amount I originally paid for it, a while back!
If you happen to buy that Rifle I have a rear sight for it that I might consider parting with.
Yeah I would LIKE to have that pre-war Hornet in MY collection but I don't deal through the mail on collector type guns - to much room for obfuscation and outright deceit!
Be careful shopping online for collector guns!
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#3536843 - 12/03/09 04:24 PM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: VarmintGuy]
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Originally Posted By: VarmintGuy
Shrapnel: Even with the missing rear sight on that pre-war Model 70 Hornet - it IS still worth a LOT of money!
"IF" there are no extra holes in the receiver and "IF" the barrel has NOT been "K'ed" out and it IS near mint like you describe AND I owned it I would not even consider selling it for less than $3,750.00!
The first pre-64 Winchester Model 70 I "collected" was a post war 22 Hornet and I paid $125.00 for it - it IS a minty Rifle and I turned down an offer twenty times the amount I originally paid for it, a while back!
If you happen to buy that Rifle I have a rear sight for it that I might consider parting with.
Yeah I would LIKE to have that pre-war Hornet in MY collection but I don't deal through the mail on collector type guns - to much room for obfuscation and outright deceit!
Be careful shopping online for collector guns!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


Thanks for the info. I did buy it and sent the check out today. I am committed. I also ordered 500 rounds of brass and bought some bullets. I will still need some dies, but that will happen as I am certain someone will have a cheap set on the campfire or the Bozeman gun show next weekend.

I agree on the deceit, but I always try to talk to the seller and you can learn alot about the gun and the seller both. I feel quite good on the whole deal. I can't wait to see it.
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Originally Posted By: deflave
If you want to fit in with a new crowd, ask them if they know shrapnel. There is no friggin' way they won't know who that man is. He is the Chuck Norris of Montana and you will have a nice icebreaker to discuss.
Travis



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#3540451 - 12/04/09 06:07 PM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: shrapnel]
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as much as I would love a pre war model 70.. even chambered in 22 Hornet.. you won't see me shelling out big bucks on a 22 Hornet, regardless of who made it..or how old it is..
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#3544512 - 12/06/09 04:58 AM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: Seafire]
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shrapnel, I don't know if you have loaded for the hornet much but I have found the Lee collet neck sizer very handy. As much as I do not care for Lee loading tools this one seems to extend the life of brass quite a bit.

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#3544577 - 12/06/09 05:50 AM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: 65X54]
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Geez, I would have waited to see how well it shoots before buying 500 cases for it!
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#3548682 - 12/07/09 11:32 AM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: shrapnel]
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Shrapnel: I am just thrilled you are getting such a wonderful and rare Rifle for yourself!
I hope your conversation with the owner is a harbinger of "good things to come" with said Rifle!
I saw a set of 22 Hornet RCBS dies at my local sport/pawn shop here in Dillon a couple weeks ago - I will re-check there today or tomorrow.
This sport shop is usually closed on Mondays but he was open this morning when I drove by - he sometimes opens so the UPS and Fed/Ex folks can make deliveries.
Again congratulations on the cool, new (and RARE!) Rifle.
Hold into the wind
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#3548732 - 12/07/09 11:55 AM Re: What is this pre-war Model 70 in 22 Hornet worth [Re: Seafire]
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Seafire: Herein lies the error of your ways regarding "collector guns" - my BANK is offering 00000.47% interest on my savings account!
Not even 1% interest!!!
In other words for every $1,000.00 I leave at my bank for a YEAR I earn $4.70!!!
Hardly worth the risk of leaving that much money in a BANK!
That Rifle on the other hand has been earning about 8.00% or maybe even 10.00% interest - in the way of increased value every year since it was new!
Not only will Shrapnel earn money in the way of increased value (appreciation!) with his newly invested dollars he WILL be pridefully owning (and maybe even shooting!) one of the "coolest" 22 Hornet Rifles ever made - THE pre-war Winchester Model 70!
The bluing alone on that pre-war Model 70 is more beautiful and more beautifully done than on any factory Hornet Rifle ever made - anywhere in the world!
Then just slide the bolt open on that pre-war Model 70 action and enjoy the smoothness and strength that is obvious while one does so!
Aaaahhhh......
I have owned Hornets made by Sako, Anschutz, Ruger #1's, savage, Ruger 77's, post-war Model 70's and some Winchester Model 43's - none of them compare to the strength, safety, good looks and investment potential with that of a pre-war Model 70 Hornet!
YOUR refusal to invest in collector guns is shortsighted and only punishes YOU in the over-all scheme of life!
Invest carefully and enjoy life MORE - is my motto!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

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