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Should have also asked ... can one put the older trigger system into the New M70's?

Nope.. no-can-do...

This has been hashed over on the hunting rifles forum for months.. Many like the new trigger. It is a bit crisper.. However, it is an enclosed unit.. What happens after a few hunts in either inclement weather, dusty/dirty conditions and/or after an owner has liberally sprayed it with WD-40... I think they're going to fail, period... And when they do, it's going to be a trip back to the factory for repair.. Those things are restricted parts.. And you might wait 3 months to get it back..

The old-style trigger, for all it's alleged negatives (heavy, creepy ) rarely failed to work - ever.. They didn't break, they didn't fail, they're easily cleaned and as simple as ABC... With a trigger job done by a competent smith, those triggers are SWEET, and have done the job for over six decades.. .. To those that say it shouldn't require a trigger job to be that good, yeah - so what?? Nearly every other factory rifle comes out of the plant with lawyer triggers that can use adjustment, stoning, etc., to be as good as they can be.. Some of the very worst triggers I've ever had in the shop (commercial, not military) are on Remington M700s.... Many times it's the owner who goofed 'em up by not knowing what the heck they're doing.. It happens..

Winchester buyers don't like Browning parts on their rifles... If they wanted 'em, they can buy an A-bolt and giverhell...

I'm not seeing the new ones sell all that well.. At least, on Gunbroker, they keep getting reposted time after time after time with no bids.. Yet, the NH classics continue to sell with many getting way over what they brought when they were new... The local store here has 'em in stock and they're not flying out the doors..

There's a reason..

Off topic and maybe deserving of a new thread, but I like the trigger on the new M70. I have hunted with FN Mausers with aftermarket "enclosed" Timneys for years and never had problems. And, the area I hunt mule deer in is windy and has blowing sand, sage brush seeds, rabbit brush seeds, etc. and is hard on guns. Double shotguns with single triggers tend to quit firing the second barrel after a few hours and I have 390 and 391 Berettas quit working after a few hours in this environment.

After a 4 or 5 day hunt in this area, it literally takes months to get the sand and other crap out of the gun and the one SC M70 I have owned performed well out there. Additionally, the SC guns are of GREAT quality, especially when compared to the junk produced under the "Classic" period.

Given the choice I'd buy a pre-64 for the resale (not that my two sons would ever let me sell a gun they want) and the warm feeling it gives you. I am very impressed by what I've read and the few reviews recent owners have said about the new M70s made in SC. In the same vein I'm looking for a 300 Weatherby Southgate with an FN mauser action ... If I can't find one, I won't have any problem buying a new M70 in 300 Win Mag.

Chuck

Chuck: Bottom line is I'd take a Remington DG hunting any day of the week and wouldn't even think twice about it. The respect is mutual. Cheers, jorge

Colorado,

I personally like the new SC M70s a little better than pre-64s. I see a few FN .300 Weatherbys out there (check the Cabelas Web site and gunsamerica). I picked a .257 FN in an original Weatherby up from a dealer who didn't know what he had at a gun show for $350. I DEEPLY regret selling it for $950 a few minutes later on the way out the door... I haven't seen one in .257 before or since.

Thanks Desert, it's good to see the M70 back. I have time to look, so I'm checking gunbroker, gunsinternational, local "thrifty nickel" hoping to fall into a good deal on a 300 Weatherby Southgate FN.


Chuck