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I followed the gun registration thing in Canada closely. The man who put gun registration in place was Pierre Trudeau through a bill called C-51. It was for people control. Not crime control.

Trudeau was very much a communist. Fidel Castro liked hi so much he attended Trudeau's funeral. The family of Maurice Strong, who was part of Trudeau's inner circle took part in the communist revolution. Strong's one time partner, the late Paul Nathanson, was a communist spy.

Do you remember when Fidel Castro dumped his prisoners into Miami. Trudeau did exactly the same thing in Canada. Trudeau had a Marxist Prime Minister friend in Jamaica named Michael Manley. Under Manley's rule the country was disintegrating and there were street riots everywhere.

To get Manley off the hook Trudeau imported Jamaica's street hoodlums into Canada, without background checks, in the name of multi-culturalism. Trudeau gave them money, dental and health care etc. etc.

When I left Toronto 20 years ago there were NO street gangs and you could walk anywhere in town without being bothered. Now there are 120, mostly Jamaican, street gangs who live from the drug trade and the murder rate has doubled. Much of the city is unsafe.

Its a simple fact that Marxist Trudeau did everything he could to disarm law abiding Canadians while at the same time he and the Liberal Party of Canada did more than anyone else in Canadian history to boost the crime rate in Canada.

Trudeaus Minister of Immigration, Lloyd Axeworthy (who tried to become Prime Minsiter) was even photographed driving a man identified by Italian police as a CAPO MAFIOSO from Winnipeg to North Dakota so he could briefly leave and then immediately return to Canada, extend his immigation permit, and stay in Canda longer. He was in Axeworthy's car. The story, by Bob Reguly, was in the Toronto Sun.

The Liberal party of Canada is the reason they now have gunfights in downtown Toronto, with as many as 15 participants, which is even more than at the gunfight at the OK Corral in the old west. Just Twenty years ago such a thing was unheard of.






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You have to forgive the Liberals. After all they consider themselves the "natural ruling party" of Canada. They think you and me are stupid and can't remember what happened. If they thought it would help them get elected, they would attempt to revise history, change their position,and blame the Conservatives, even if it was a Liberal bill that brought in registration.

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Trudeau was dispised by most Francaphones and Western Canadians.
He was loved by those in Ontario and oddly by the rest of the world, especially women. I had no use for the man but won't paint the Libs as all bad as it was they who broke the deficeit spending of both parties including Mullronies Conservatives.

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Trudeau was evil, rich and stupid wheras Mulroney would take food from a starving child if given half chance. There is a great book about Mulrony calked "On The Take" by Stevie Cameron and there was no better comedy on TV than Mulroney's questioning about bribery in the Karl Heinz Schreiber Affair.

Paul Martin and Trudeau's old buddy Maurice Strong owned an oil company together called Codex. And aside from crime fighting, like trying to take the handguns of all Canadians, Martin and Strong (whio invented the idea of Global warming) made deals with Saddam Hussein knowing he was a monster.

Husseins cousin "Chemical" Ali was executed today. Martin knew these guys were killing innoncent women and children and worked hand in hand with them. The Walls Street Journal published a list of people on the take from Hussein.

The heart and soul of the liberal Party was first of all Paul Demerais' power corp and it has shifted to Gerry Schwartz's Onex Corp.

In my opinion these are all seriously bad people. I think its time for the Federal Liberal Party of Canada to disappear forever. Its a rotten apple right to the core.



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Good Post, Burner, I don't think this is off-topic

AB2506,....is the old Forest Lawn District of Cowtown still plagued with similar problems ?

When I split in '93 it was Tongs, Triads, and the Calgary Fuzz had put together ran "Asian Crime Unit" .

Hell of a mess, that.

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We have the same problem here in the U.S.A. today with our elected top official exactly.

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I don't know Calgary but I know that any decisions Trudeau's immigration Minister Lloyd Axeworthy had a hand ought to be investigated in detail.

Twenty years ago the two major corrupting influences in Canada were the Soviet Union and the Hong Kong Triad. Since the collpase of the Soviet Union it has become the Triad and the deciples of Myer Lansky, former hit man and head of murder incorporated.

The Triad moved to Toronto just before Hong Kong was handed back to Red China just to cover their bets. But they owned lots of property in Hong Kong and couldn't move it so they gradually made sweetheart deals with the Red Chinese. Now they work hand in hand. The TRIAD owns major Canadian banks.

Myer Lansky's people are the same ones who built Los Vegas and who Castro kicked out of Cuba. They have for years been laundering money in Canada and now they too own many major industries and huge valuable properties. they work hand in hand with the Triad - divy up the pie.

I very much question the role of Liberal Bob Rae who wanted to be Prime Minister of Canada. Rae was once premier of Ontario for the NDP party and the only thing he did in Ontario was bring in large Chinese owned gambling casinos. He left the NDP and joined the Liberals when members of his own party criticized Israel.

In Canada the big wheels are never arrested. They are always arrested in the USA or Britain. Hockey lawyer Al Eaglesons was arrested and jailed in the USA. Lord Conrad Black was arrested
and jailed int eh USA. He is still in jail. Most troubling is th acse of Laval University professor Hugh Hambleton who was a Russian spy. He was free as a bird in Canada when former Liberal PM Jean Cretien was Trudeau's Minister of justice. The RCMP ought to have made the arrest but did not. He s finally arrested and jailed in England.

There are now real nasty people at the top in Canada and it all began with Pierre Trudeau.


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Trudeau was was the wrost kind of intelectual liberal elitest! Today his ardent supporters still espouse tolorance of others beliefs but as long as it agrees with thiers.

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Trudeau's son is the new rising star of the Liberal Party of Canada,the anointed one who will lead them back to power.He is another elitist socialist like his father,like Stephane Dion,and Michael Ignatieff.None of these people give two hoots about Canada or Canadians,they care only for power,and to saddle voters with their big tax socialist agenda.When you add Bob Rae to the mix it gets downright ugly.Every night before I go to bed I pray for a Harper majority government.We already have the numbers in the Senate that we need to get things done! MOnashee


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Dear Monashee,

I agree completely. I have not yet seen any evidence that the Harper Tories are corrupt or linked to serious organized crime like the liberals are and I am sure they know what has been going on in Canada for many years. I would like to see them get a majority, take the money that has spent on thing like the gun registration - give it to the RCMP - even appoint Elliot Ness type G men with Tommy Guns if need be and let them take the bit in their teeth and go after the big fish.

On a positive note the driving force behind the federal Liberals and their power base in the GTA in Ontario is the Toronto Star which keeps losing money.

They only survive because they own Harlequin Romances. The paper makes no money now. They had to fire 150 people last year. They are losing control of information dissemination to websites like this one and will not have the influence in the future that they have had in the past.

All the good Canadian crime storie have been broken by US papers and not by the star. The examples are the ones mentioned above - Al Eagleson, Conrad Black and spy Hugh Hambleton - all major Canadian stories and all broken by US media and all arrests made by US law enforcment officials and all prisons terms served in US prisons. That tells you how bad things have been in Canada.

Here is another interesting little story. Remember the Canadian para regiment that was disbanded by Paul Martin because a member killed a Somali who tried to rob them. The Canadian media (and especially Toronto Star) spin was that this was an example of a white supremist attitude in the Canadian military.

What was never discussed was the fact that the guy who killed the Somali was an Indian - not a Gujarati Indian but a first Nations Indian.

It was just case of the Somalis meet the Iroquois. Pierre Radisson encountered the same problem.






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Dear Monashee,

Trudeau's son has his fathers looks but he has his mother's brains. No worries!

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Previous Liberal governments have always used the Canadian Forces as a whipping boy.It started with Paul Hellyer's unification of the Sevices and continued through Somalia,to the Chretien/Martin deployment of Canadian Forces to Afghanistan with no directives and woeful equipment.The present Liberal partie's preoccupation with the treatment of Afghan detainees can be traced directly back to the Martin Liberals,and I think this will come out more when Parliment resumes sitting,although I don't expect the Canadian MSM to say much about it! Monashee


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I think the next step would be to borrow money from China to rebuild Haiti? That would fit in nicely with all the BS that goes on in this country. Good posts fellas and enlightening to say the least. I find it ironic that you have to go to an American website forum to find out what's going on in Canada's nasty background. And they say there is only censorship in China.


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James Richardson, who was Canada's Minister of Defence at one time, used to say the key to understanding Pierre Trudeau was to know that he hated English Speaking Canadians.

He hardly ever visited English Canada. He married Margarette to get the western vote. He spent much more time with "bachelors" like Michael Pitfield and with Marc Lalonde than he ever did with Margaret which is why she in turn hung out at drug dens in NYC and with the Rolling Stones. She was straight.

Trudeau knew that when he dumped Jamaica's street criminals into Canada they would go to Toronto because they spoke English. Trudeau lived in Montreal. No worries for him.

The way to get even is to take all of Haiti's worst street criminals and let them too come to Canada using the disaster as the reason. They speak French. They will all end up in Montreal, double the crime rate there, and keep the likes of Paul Martin looking over his shoulder like residents of Toronto have to do today.




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Right on! but I note that the orphans are arriving in Toronto not Montreal. So the rest of the families will also follow there. Once a link is established many relatives will come out of the wood work,(or should I say rock piles) quaranteed. Canada doesn't need more immigrants, what we need is the taxation lowered so we can have bigger families to replace the dieing, not importing people that breed like rabbits and don't care about responsibilities in educating their children or what happens to them after they walk and feed themselves. Parenting doesn't end when they are at this point. Only animals think this way.


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Originally Posted by Jburner
Dear Monashee,

Trudeau's son has his fathers looks but he has his mother's brains. No worries!


Now, that's funny! laugh laugh


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Dear Monashee,

Trudeau's son has his fathers looks but he has his mother's brains. No worries!


Now, that's funny! laugh laugh
That IS funny!I new Margeret in Noth Vancouver in the late 60's early 70s.Everything they say about her is true!What a party animal


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Good Post, Burner, I don't think this is off-topic

AB2506,....is the old Forest Lawn District of Cowtown still plagued with similar problems ?

When I split in '93 it was Tongs, Triads, and the Calgary Fuzz had put together ran "Asian Crime Unit" .

Hell of a mess, that.

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Calgary still has those issues and more now. Just a couple uears ago, there was a shooting at South Centre Mall, gang related, but innocent bystanders injured, downtown echos with gunfire regularly. Often the gangs are Asian or affiliated with them. Other parts of town are crawling with Somalies, Eastern Europe is well represented.....
Cowtown it isn't anymore and that is real shame! Calgary today, is one of a very few places in Canada where I wish I could carry a handgun.
I can remember the Bowness area in the mid eighties had a rep for being dangerous. That was just good ole boy bikers. Used to be a couple good bars there, bikers only but soldiers were welcome in them too! Had some good times! Never had too many issues with Asian gangs etc in that part of town.

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Dear troutfly,

I am sorry to hear that about Calgary. My father took me there to see the stampede when I was a boy. It was a great city.

The Federal Liberal party is behind multi-cukturalism and it seems to have been a vote buying thing. We let you in and give you the benefits and you vote for us.

The Liberals under Trudeau and Lloyd Axeworhty brought in thousands of hooligans and they get free medical care and other care. An immigrant gets free dental care and a Canadian resident can't get that. The Canadian tax payer was never asked if he wanted multi-culturalism and he gets stiffed for the bill. The new arrivals vote Liberal from then on because Liberal lavish the money of other Canadians on them.

I was in a Toronto bar called Crooks (It was owned by Dan Akroyd the actor) one time and a very attractive Jamaican girl came up to me and said she wanted me to "give her baby."

I thought that is very bold of her but it turns out it was a kind of business. Unwed mothers get free or reduced rent apartments and they get so much a baby in support money until the kids are 18 or so. So they time the babies they have to keep the money coming and this girl needed another $300 a month at the time.

The thin edge of the multiculturalism wedge wedge was a Hungarian guy named Leon. I had dinner with he and his elegant wife one day. He created a thing in Toronto called caribana or some similar name. Just forget the exact name.

They promoted a thing where different countries set up pavillions to show of their local dances and sell their local foods.

The whole idea behind it seemed to be to show how great multiculturalism was, to soften Canadians up for what they did no know was looming on the horizon.

Toronto was at one time a very safe city. Bob MacDinald who had a newspaper column in Toronto told me that in the days before air conditioning was invented people in Toronto used to sleep in the park on hot summer nights in sleeping bags and leave their houses unlocked.

When my father took me to Toronto as a small boy there wasn't a single beggar on the streets. I didn't even know such things as beggars existed.

Now the place is full of gangs, beggars, drug dealers, pimps. You name it. It has come with multiculturalism.

I would gladly forego the odd goat meat restaurant to make Toronto the way it was 30 years ago.

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I'm not contadicting,I was never too impressed with PET. But I think we put too much blame on politians,it's an easy to look at change.Our world has changed,and certainly not for the better.


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