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#3749995 - 02/02/10 09:56 AM 270Win or 257Roy
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Just for fun....lol... What do you think is a better elk rifle?
What bullet would you go with?
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#3750017 - 02/02/10 10:00 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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160 Partition in a .270 Win. But I hunt with a .264 Win, which is basically a .257 Weatherby, so I'm kind of conradicting myself.
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#3750020 - 02/02/10 10:02 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: exbiologist]
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Easy 270 Win.130gr TSX

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#3750054 - 02/02/10 10:12 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: 7 STW]
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ok so far thats 2votes for 270Win and no votes yet for the 257Roy... I'm thinken the 270 mite win this.
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#3750067 - 02/02/10 10:15 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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Maybe I should have asked 308Win vs 257Roy.... laugh
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#3750093 - 02/02/10 10:22 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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I prefer the 270 but have used the 257 Wby and would have no issues in using it day in and day out for elk.

If one builds they can do a nice light 257 Wby, but other than building there isn't a lot of lighterweight options. If I had to do a 257 Wby I'd grab a 700 and wrap a Ti take off around it. Then it'd have the weight out front that I like and would still be fairly lightweight.

Bottom line, either round is fine with me as long as I can get it in a rifle I like to shoot and carry.

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#3750115 - 02/02/10 10:28 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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I'm not convinced the 257 packs the punch on big stuff..

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#3750126 - 02/02/10 10:31 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: 7 STW]
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Mike, it seems to me I read somewhere that somebody hunted and killed cape buffalo with that 257wby... smile
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#3750148 - 02/02/10 10:35 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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My Dads bread and butter cartridge since 1968.I've seen tons of moose shot with that combo.It doesn't drop them like a 7mm 30 cal ect.Never has..I'm not impressed with it on large game to say the least.

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#3750152 - 02/02/10 10:35 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: 7 STW]
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I find it interesting that you say you're not convinced that the 257 packs enough punch in yet you say 270 with a 130 TSX.

This is only my experience but to me a 270/130 combo will run in the 3100 give or take range. And the 257 Wby will run a 120 to 3200 with no problemo.

Bottom line, my experience has taught me that there's not much diff tween the two.

Thoughts as to why you'd say a 270/130 but that the 257 isn't packing enough punch?

Thx
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#3750169 - 02/02/10 10:40 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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The 270 wasn't my first pick either.I don't trust the 257 on anything larger than deer.Thats just me.

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#3750183 - 02/02/10 10:44 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: 7 STW]
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Gothca, I could and have used both. Has your Dad been using the 257 or the 270 for the many years?

At this time I like my 338/06 on a light rifle and my 7 Mashburn for the more open country.

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#3750186 - 02/02/10 10:45 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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Sorry Mark.My Dad uses the 257 Roy.

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#3750194 - 02/02/10 10:47 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: 7 STW]
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I'm glad we can all agree that the 325WSM is the bestest deer/elk round ever..... whistle
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#3750196 - 02/02/10 10:47 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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Chane that to "fat bastard" aka my 338 wsm and you've got my agreement..

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#3750204 - 02/02/10 10:51 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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ok ok "fat bastard" can get the honorable mention as runner up to the 8mm WSM...
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#3750207 - 02/02/10 10:52 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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I'm glad we can all agree that the 325WSM is the bestest deer/elk round ever..... whistle



8 Mag guy here Sorry Bud.

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#3750217 - 02/02/10 10:54 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: 7 STW]
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we all know what u do with 8 mag brass Mike....lol..
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#3750221 - 02/02/10 10:55 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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So true.I'm a neck downer.

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#3750226 - 02/02/10 10:56 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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Yeah turn it into 340 brass... grin

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#3750313 - 02/02/10 11:19 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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I like both rounds and either would work on elk with the right bullet. However, I'd pick the .270Win. if I had to use the .275R in a Weatherby rifle. I just haven't been able to make peace with the Weatherby style stock.

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#3751070 - 02/02/10 02:40 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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I own both, and would lean to the 270 just for a slightly heavier slug.
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#3751956 - 02/02/10 05:40 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: 1minute]
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For elk I would choose the .270 Win every time. With 150g bullets.
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#3752101 - 02/02/10 06:13 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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Killed a pile of elk with the 270 and 150 grainers......



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#3752239 - 02/02/10 06:50 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: alpinecrick]
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In this comparison I favor the 270 with 150 or 160 NP's for critters in elk size hides.


Edited by Gone_Huntin (02/02/10 06:52 PM)
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#3752620 - 02/02/10 08:14 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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Taken with a .257 Weatherby at 385 yards...120gr partition.

This one was taken with a .270 at 225 yards...130gr partition.
Either will work fine if you place your shots well...
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#3754819 - 02/03/10 12:41 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: scenarshooter]
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Nice pics Pat! 4 some reason or another the first bull (and I love that bull by the way) looks like it fell in less than an elk packing friendly spot... grin

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#3761552 - 02/05/10 07:54 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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Either will work fine if you place your shots well...


I agree with that statement... but I am a diehard 270 fan.
So I would choose a 270.

In reality, my 338-06 would probably get the nod.

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#3763139 - 02/05/10 02:29 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: CRS]
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.270...now compare throw in the .270 Wby, 150 grain NPs, and have at it.

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#3763160 - 02/05/10 02:35 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: GF1]
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Both will do the job, but I personally would choose... neither.

In my book, bigger critters deserve bigger bullets. To paraphrase the Keithian hypothesis, with some Capstick topspin, if you're fixin' to put a hole in something, make it a hole to remember.

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#3766245 - 02/06/10 09:17 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Kentucky_Windage]
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True confessions - my preferred elk rifles all begin with "3", and my favorite with "33".

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#3768261 - 02/06/10 07:06 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Kentucky_Windage]
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6.5 x284 is more then just a great paper puncher its a great hunting cailber.
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#3770106 - 02/07/10 10:17 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: bobkoch]
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I really like both; however, if I had to choose just one it would be the 270 Win because it will handle heavier projectiles if needed.

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#3770194 - 02/07/10 10:41 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Gone_Huntin]
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Own them both, love them both but if elk were on the menu, I would be carrying the bigger bullet...

having said that, my 300 wsm would be preferable.
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#3770348 - 02/07/10 11:18 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: firstcoueswas80]
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what is the gun used for? the two are both proven elk killers. if it was gonna be a open country speed goat and dog zapper I would lean to the 257 if you were gonna just hunt elk I would think 270. having used both with equal results I would just grab one and go.

ps, my 257 killed elk died to the trauma from a 100gr tsx tearing through (yes through) at 350 odd yds. I have the utmost confidence in them because I shoot it a bunch.

that last line^^^^^is more important then the difference of the thickness of a piece of paper between two bullets.

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#3771934 - 02/07/10 07:08 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: high_country_]
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270 win and 150gr partitions.

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#3772093 - 02/07/10 07:37 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: hotsoup]
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Amazing what a difference 1/50th of an inch and 2% of an ounce in bullet weight can (theoretically) make.
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#3772204 - 02/07/10 07:59 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mule Deer]
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mule deer - heck, almost every argument/opinion one reads here is "theoretical", don't you think?

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#3772258 - 02/07/10 08:14 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: hotsoup]
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Good point!
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#3772348 - 02/07/10 08:48 PM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: Mule Deer]
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I can't believe this made it into the elk forum.

Everyone knows that a .270 Win will just pencil in without expanding and a .257 Roy will disintegrate before it gets through the armored skin...

You can only kill elk with 7mm and larger bullets or they don't bleed. grin
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#3773067 - 02/08/10 06:41 AM Re: 270Win or 257Roy [Re: STA]
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I think the .270 has pretty much been proving to work on elk by countless numbers of hunters, the .257 would work but not as well as it or the .270 should either.
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