#3768203 - 02/06/10 06:49 PM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: Tom264]
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And some of you jumped on me for using a 6.8SPC on cow and raghorn elk! Sheesh... ThatsThat's causebecause youryou're an idiot. How'd that go? Bang! bangBang! It takes an idiot like you to make multiple spelling mistakes in one sentence! You are such a loser. 
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#3768215 - 02/06/10 06:52 PM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: brooksrange]
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Ahh you bit.....hahahahaha
Tell your other self Ton264 to quit following me around....
And I dont care how I spell on here Mrs. Brooksrange everybody knows what I'm saying.
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#3768262 - 02/06/10 07:06 PM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: brooksrange]
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Registered: 12/17/06
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Loc: Pinedale, Wyoming
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And some of you jumped on me for using a 6.8SPC on cow and raghorn elk! Sheesh... ThatsThat's causebecause youryou're an idiot. How'd that go? Bang! bangBang! It takes an idiot like you to make multiple spelling mistakes in one sentence! You are such a loser. Grammar check nazi...........
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#3768291 - 02/06/10 07:15 PM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: Tom264]
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Ahh you bit.....hahahahaha. MUHAHAHAHA! MOOOHAHAHAHAH! Hahaha!
...... What's that all about? Are you that childish? I apologized sincerely on the Campfire and you never did- get over it and move on. P.S. I don't know who the heck this Ton person is that you refer to but I strongly suspect it's either some fluke/chance with a real guy (bad luck for him to be associated with you) or one of your buddies (who is probably as shallow as you) from that time everyone seemed to be replicating themselves a few Saturday nights ago. Either way, you deserve what you get! As I said, I don't want to be associated with you. You are a loser.
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#3768304 - 02/06/10 07:18 PM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: brooksrange]
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Registered: 12/19/06
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Loc: Southern Indiana
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But I thought you were leaving........ Here.... Of course a LIE....just like all the others.
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#3768330 - 02/06/10 07:22 PM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: Tom264]
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But I thought you were leaving........
Of course a LIE..... No, read my post here: My Sincere Feelings, why I... Reflecting these many days, I've come to realize many things.
1. I've been an active and very good member of the campfire for about 4 1/2 years; yes, four and one-half years.
2. I've recently posted (last few months) some threads that were somewhat controversial because I was frustrated with some extreme views expressed by a minority of individuals. That minority of individuals was providing very uneducated, apocaliptic one-sided answers to problems that have many root causes. For instance, wolves are a predator of elk, but they are not the only reason for the decline in the trophy elk population in some states. We are the primary predators of trophy elk. Other factors do weigh in too, and a small minority of those posters chose to completely ignore, like human population expansion, mining & oil & gas & forestry exploration creating more roads into the backcountry and thus greater access to game , pollution, poor wildlife management etc. IMHO, we need thoughtful actions that affect change to many root causes and wolves are only part of the problem. Through better game management, voting for change, spending our dollars towards uniting as hunters,regulating hunting seasons for wolves, etc. etc. we may achieve a better balance for all stakeholders and we should support associations, foundations etc. that enable that, not just complain.
3.I posted a few thoughts like the above example and then got blasted for it. I was told I was a liberal and I'm not. So I decided I'd try to play their game, by their rules and act like they do. Act like they perceived me to get under their skin. That approach obviously did not work for me, nor did it help further reduce my frustration and the frustration of most hunters, access to increasingly healthy game populations.
4(A). Clearly acting like they do (at least initially like Tom 264 did) is not right, nor appropriate, nor educated. I was wrong and I apologize. I totally lost my perspective, my moral and religious compass and I am deeply sorry.
4(B). Let me emphasize, that I was also a jerk and I should not have stooped to their level. I personally say sorry for all those that had to read the diatribe and outbursts from both Tom and me. I forgive him and I am moving on. I now say my sincere apologies to Tom too as I will feel better about that going forward.
5. I will make it up over time and hopefully, I can try to rebuild my equity over the next 4 1/2 years to celebrate my 9 year anniversary with you!
Those that stick around, I would like to be in a position to buy them a beer!
Thank you and I appreciate you for listening to me. Have a fabulous day and I really value many of you for your quick personal messages of support and especially, about not throwing it all out the window and for helping me pull it together.
God bless and God bless America, Brooks
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#3769606 - 02/07/10 07:55 AM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: red_alder_ranch]
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I know people who are into REAL primitive hunting; making their own gear, practicing like crazy, developing good stalking skills, etc.
This is just a canned "hunt", with tame critters and a celebrity blowhard. The spear is not what bothers me about it.
ugh. Took me three seasons to decide using my homemade lemonwood longbow was not productive for harvesting deer, although I managed to kill a turkey and a couple of spruce hens with it. I went back to the compound. I didn't know Allen hunted. Its a good thing. Don't care about the canned "hunt." I didn't watch the film (26K land line), but is it different than shooting an ear-tagged bison on a private ranch? I guess he coulda just pushed the live elk through a slaughterhouse disassembly line and waited on the other end, if killing it with a spear is considered poor behavior. Pictures of a slaughterhouse anyone? 
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#3773789 - 02/08/10 10:22 AM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: DPole]
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Loc: Indianapolis IN
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I don't have a problem with the spear but I don't like high-fenced hunting unless the hunter is not physically able, or the property is measured in square miles, not acres. The Bison hunts I can understand totally because it's very good meat on the table and more ethical than taking the animal to a slaughter house.
DPole, I did electrical/lighting work in a slaughter house in KS. There is nothing like a slaughter house. It took me years to go back to eating beef from a major grocery store chain because of it and I still try to get a local producer to get beef when we can. I don't know how to explain to others what it's like working in a chop shop.....You can see and smell the "mist" for miles away..whatever that mist is...decomposing flesh??? You bring the smell and suet home on your clothes and in your hair, in your truck and on everything..even dollar bills smelled different. The fat is stuck to everything like butter rubbed on a baking pan. Working on a conveyor that was 480-VOLT, 3-Phase, with blood dripping on you is no fun. That smell is terrible. It's like the smell of a gut pile but you can't turn your head for fresh air...you just take one good breath and get used to it...or quit your job.
Watching those hombres work a knife on a full sized beef would make you wish they were out hunting with you....it took them just minutes to carve out a whole beef.
Did I mention the waste-ponds, kind of like water retention ponds, but for animal waste and biproducts?
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#3780554 - 02/09/10 09:21 PM
Re: Jared Allen spears an Elk!
[Re: IBUY50BMGBRASS]
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Registered: 11/06/09
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Loc: N.W. California
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Killed a deer with a slingshot loaded with a marble once.
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