High fence elk are not for me, regardless of the method used.

What a complete PHUCKING DUMBAZZ.

Will never buy another Coldsteel product after seeing that and have lost any respect I might have had for Jared Allen... one more reason to be happy the Vikings didn't make the Super Bowl.

And that's the restrained version of my thoughts...

I don't care for high fence anything. Wonder how long it will take for someone to claim we threaten to divide all hunters and allow the antis to defeat us all? Hogwash. High fences BLOW!

What if you chose a .338 and I decided on a .22?

Though there was a guy that got cornered after he speared a black bear some years back, a very gray area as to legality.

OF course the black bear was open land, not a fence and the guy worked hard on his methods and spears. More power to folks like that. AGain its not different in my mind than you using a 270 and me choosing a 338, simply a different choice of weapons.

He didn't break any laws, I could care less. You guys are wound way to tight. I personally wouldn't do it and think its goofy as hell but it certainly doesn't make me hate someone or get upset about it.

Animals aren't personal playthings one gets to exercise one's ego on... throwing a spear at an elk is so irresponsible on so many levels it's hard to know where to start.

What's next, hurling rocks on animals to mimic our cave-dwelling ancestors? Maybe we could drive a herd off a buffalo jump.

Encouraging something so iffy is so far beyond me I can't fathom how anyone could participate in such a stunt, let alone promote it as "sport" to other knuckle-draggers, all to make a buck...

So no, my objection has far less to do with the high fence... which is fairly disgusting in its own right.

Shooting an elk with a .22 would be illegal in any place I ever lived. There is usually a minimum energy rule in place.....all of which is mute if it is a high fence livestock sitation. I too have killed 1000 lb steers with a .22, not really relivent here.

well if you want to get technical then the fact that rimfires are illegal makes your point a moot one too...

I would be impressed if he speared a lion while in a small fenced area, no chase of that.

The disscudion involved legality not what is technically possable. My point was in any jurisdiction I ever lived in their is a minimum cal or energy required in order to legally hunt. This guy would have been arrested plain and simply.....no argument.
It is mute cause a farm animal has no protection from goofu ides.
I would be impressed if he speared a lion while in a small fenced area, no chase of that.

Amen. I'm guessing that spear makes a damn site bigger hole than your average arrow/broadhead combo. As long as he's practiced enough to hit what he's throwing at, go for it.

High fence elk are not for me, regardless of the method used.

Gang Spears

And some of you jumped on me for using a 6.8SPC on cow and raghorn elk! Sheesh...

ThatsThat's causebecause youryou're an idiot.

How'd that go?

Bang!bangBang!

It takes an idiot like you to make multiple spelling mistakes in one sentence! You are such a loser.

Ahh you bit.....hahahahaha. MUHAHAHAHA! MOOOHAHAHAHAH! Hahaha!

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But I thought you were leaving........

Of course a LIE.....

Reflecting these many days, I've come to realize many things.

1. I've been an active and very good member of the campfire for about 4 1/2 years; yes, four and one-half years.

2. I've recently posted (last few months) some threads that were somewhat controversial because I was frustrated with some extreme views expressed by a minority of individuals. That minority of individuals was providing very uneducated, apocaliptic one-sided answers to problems that have many root causes. For instance, wolves are a predator of elk, but they are not the only reason for the decline in the trophy elk population in some states. We are the primary predators of trophy elk. Other factors do weigh in too, and a small minority of those posters chose to completely ignore, like human population expansion, mining & oil & gas & forestry exploration creating more roads into the backcountry and thus greater access to game , pollution, poor wildlife management etc. IMHO, we need thoughtful actions that affect change to many root causes and wolves are only part of the problem. Through better game management, voting for change, spending our dollars towards uniting as hunters,regulating hunting seasons for wolves, etc. etc. we may achieve a better balance for all stakeholders and we should support associations, foundations etc. that enable that, not just complain.

3.I posted a few thoughts like the above example and then got blasted for it. I was told I was a liberal and I'm not. So I decided I'd try to play their game, by their rules and act like they do. Act like they perceived me to get under their skin. That approach obviously did not work for me, nor did it help further reduce my frustration and the frustration of most hunters, access to increasingly healthy game populations.

4(A). Clearly acting like they do (at least initially like Tom 264 did) is not right, nor appropriate, nor educated. I was wrong and I apologize. I totally lost my perspective, my moral and religious compass and I am deeply sorry.

4(B). Let me emphasize, that I was also a jerk and I should not have stooped to their level. I personally say sorry for all those that had to read the diatribe and outbursts from both Tom and me. I forgive him and I am moving on. I now say my sincere apologies to Tom too as I will feel better about that going forward.

5. I will make it up over time and hopefully, I can try to rebuild my equity over the next 4 1/2 years to celebrate my 9 year anniversary with you!

Those that stick around, I would like to be in a position to buy them a beer!

Thank you and I appreciate you for listening to me. Have a fabulous day and I really value many of you for your quick personal messages of support and especially, about not throwing it all out the window and for helping me pull it together.

God bless and God bless America,
Brooks

I know people who are into REAL primitive hunting; making their own gear, practicing like crazy, developing good stalking skills, etc.

This is just a canned "hunt", with tame critters and a celebrity blowhard. The spear is not what bothers me about it.

ugh.

Not sure why someone must have the ability to chase wolves in snow shoes to have an opinion? Maybe you were just fishing with "herring"?

My point was, he does actually hunt.